Clinton wins Indiana, Obama North Carolina. Clinton cancels tommorow's appointments

[Malacite]

Re: Clinton wins Indiana, Obama North Carolina. Clinton cancels tommorow's appointmen

Only an average blue collar American would not vote, or vote for McCain if their favorite doesn't get it.

Fixed. Honestly she can't win and just needs to GTFO. All her bitching about Florida and Michigan are to no avail because those contests were not legitimate, end of story, and here's why;

First and foremost, the Governors of those states moved up the dates, thus nullifying the votes. Tough shit, you broke the rules set out by the DNC. As a result, a lot of voters stayed home since their votes wouldn't matter anyway. These people could have voted for any of the viable candidates at the time (This means John Edwards and Bill Richardson) but didn't.

Second, you have Michigan where Obama wasn't even on the ticket, and a lot of people voted uncomitted. Also, there's the one blatant oversight Clinton keeps forgetting and that's that in that sate, republicans and independants were allowed to vote for Democrats! At that time, that would have meant a gigant boost to Obama, but they already cast their votes, which nullifies all legitmacy of a re-vote since they already voted!!!

Furthermore, the states refused to pay for the re-do and all the suggestions in Florida ended up violating one law or another.


Face it bitch, you lost. Suck it up. I give her props for fighting hard for this, but all she's doing now is hurting their chances of beating Mc Cain.

[Satimasu]

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Haha, what?

Beats me.

[Caspian]

Re: Clinton wins Indiana, Obama North Carolina. Clinton cancels tommorow's appointmen

Either way, November 4th is going to be a depressing day.

Nah, gas will get cheaper.

[Murphie]

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Beats me.

So you admit that you had no idea what you were talking about there?

[Satimasu]

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So you admit that you had no idea what you were talking about there?

I'll admit I have some idea of what I was talking about. I also will admit that it's hot in this truck.

[Aksannyi]

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I also will admit that it's hot in this truck.

Random FTW.

[Murphie]

Re: Clinton wins Indiana, Obama North Carolina. Clinton cancels tommorow's appointmen

Fixed. Honestly she can't win and just needs to GTFO. All her bitching about Florida and Michigan are to no avail because those contests were not legitimate, end of story, and here's why;

No it was not fixed. I said what I meant.

Only a complete moron would vote for the other party or not vote at all just because their favorite didn't win the nomination. America, like every country has it's fair share of morons, but I still don't think it's nearly as big an issue as all the people gnashing their teeth and clutching their necklaces about this think it's going to be.
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I'll admit I have some idea of what I was talking about. I also will admit that it's hot in this truck.

I figured you didn't have a real answer. I was right!

[Cometgreen]

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Only a complete moron would vote for the other party or not vote at all just because their favorite didn't win the nomination.

I voted in a Republican primary; will I be a moron for not voting McCain?

I understand and somewhat agree with you on the Dem side (especially because, again, I see little difference among the candidates, so a Clinton fan refusing to vote for Obama in the general is pretty silly imo), but I hope you're not disparaging all registered voters for either abstaining or refusing to vote for their party because of that party's nominee.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I can't speak for everyone, but I'm voting for which ever Dem candidate gets the nomination. Only an idiot would not vote, or vote for McCain if their favorite doesn't get it.

I'm probably voting for McCain regardless. Still, for once, I'd like to choose between two candidates I like, as opposed to McCain Vs. The Joker or two idiots I hate. The last three elections have boiled down to picking between two idiots I hate.

Dole Vs. Clinton.
Bush Vs. Gore.
Bush Vs. Kerry.

Dole I only voted for because he was more amusing. I wrote in Mario and Luigi on Bush vs. Gore. For Bush Vs. Kerry, I wrote in Jay and Silent Bob.

I'm totally serious. Its the only way I can voice my discontent with our process.

I mean, I'm not for most third party candidates, either, but I don't like that our system is manipulated by Democrats and Republicans to the point that voice of thousands of third-party supporters is completely ignored. Our political process is not what its advertised to be, it is corrupted.

I don't care for Ralph Nader or libertarian candidates, but still, the fact that my state blatantly ignored petitions signed by thousand of Green Party members submitting in timely fashion to get Nader on the Ballet is completely disgusting to me. The fact that third party candidates are locked out of debates is BULLSHIT. The media and Washington want to keep it controlled.

My vote is supposed to be my voice, yet the process shows me time and again that that is usually not the truth.

[Satimasu]

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I figured you didn't have a real answer. I was right!

Ah, I get it now. After reading what I typed for like the 9th time, I actually understood my mistake (I guess I had a heat stroke or something). Anyway, now I can say I understand what I'm talking about!

[Aksannyi]

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BBQ wins the prize for writing in Jay and Silent Bob. That is the best thing I've read today.

[Murphie]

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I voted in a Republican primary; will I be a moron for not voting McCain?

I understand and somewhat agree with you on the Dem side (especially because, again, I see little difference among the candidates, so a Clinton fan refusing to vote for Obama in the general is pretty silly imo), but I hope you're not disparaging all registered voters for either abstaining or refusing to vote for their party because of that party's nominee.

If you honestly think the other party candidate would do a better job than the one your party chose, then heck yes vote for them. But if you're just doing it out of spite? That's stupid.

I have no idea why anyone would abstain from the vote. As BBQ said above me, the vote is your voice. It may be a small voice, and at times may seem like an unimportant one, but if you don't say anything at all, then you are saying that you don't care who becomes President, and whatever decisions are made during that term are fine by you. That's ridiculous.
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Ah, I get it now. After reading what I typed for like the 9th time, I actually understood my mistake (I guess I had a heat stroke or something). Anyway, now I can say I understand what I'm talking about!

I doubt it.

[Feba]

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Only a complete moron would vote for the other party or not vote at all just because their favorite didn't win the nomination.

Well, not really. It's very possible that someone would vote for someone on the other side if their favorite loses because they actually think they're a better candidate. However, if what you mean is that voting for the other side to spite your party is stupid, I couldn't agree more.

Personally, I see Obama as the lesser of the three evils, so as much as I hate the idea of a president being much more than a symbolic leader, he'd be my pick. Between McCain and Hillary, though, it's just a lose-lose no matter which way it happens. McCain has reversed pretty much anything decent about him to turn himself into Dubya II, and honestly I can't trust any politician who has reversed their opinions on so many things in such a short time without an extremely good reason. Hillary is much the same, her campaigning has been disgusting. Insulting Obama, and then obviously acting to copy what he's doing; lying about her past (NAFTA comes to mind); smearing Obama (the whole "OMG MUSLIM" thing), and so on.

Murphie, the reason people say she should drop out is because her chances of winning are very low, and getting lower; and because the vitriol she spews is only hurting the party at this point. She's just wasting money, time, and effort on all sides.

Satismasu, learn you a book please. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. It's not doing crap to keep us safer. In fact, all those extra airport security measures? Also not really keeping us safer-- last I checked, not a single plot has been foiled by them. You might argue that the more PITA security has driven terrorists to seek other methods of attack, but that just means that we're defending a hole in a fence while we leave the gate wide open.

[Murphie]

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Well, not really. It's very possible that someone would vote for someone on the other side if their favorite loses because they actually think they're a better candidate. However, if what you mean is that voting for the other side to spite your party is stupid, I couldn't agree more.

That's what I mean (the latter one).

Murphie, the reason people say she should drop out is because her chances of winning are very low, and getting lower; and because the vitriol she spews is only hurting the party at this point. She's just wasting money, time, and effort on all sides.

I agree that she's just delaying the inevitable, but it's still her right to keep trying if she wants to. I hope she decides to give it up, but I'm not going to tell her that she had better.

Satismasu, learn you a book please. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. It's not doing crap to keep us safer. In fact, all those extra airport security measures? Also not really keeping us safer-- last I checked, not a single plot has been foiled by them. You might argue that the more PITA security has driven terrorists to seek other methods of attack, but that just means that we're defending a hole in a fence while we leave the gate wide open.

Aw, now you spelled it out.

[Feba]

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I have no idea why anyone would abstain from the vote.

As BBQ also said, nobody actually listens to your voice. Your showing up to vote does not truly impact the election. Even if your candidate gets a simple majority of the votes, they might not win; and even if they win, there's no guarantee that they will impact things like they claim to, like you think they will; and especially not how you want them to.

You can say what you want about you endorsing whatever candidate we get if you don't vote; but how is voting for a third party candidate who is closer to your views than the R or D nominee any different? You're still taking your potential vote and using it on something that will have no real impact on the election (except to possibly take away from a first party candidate that you would've been ok with; thus shooting yourself in the foot.). Sure, you might be able to increase a number in Almanacs, and you might get a little bit of press for your movement, but you will not have any effect on the election, and if you do it will likely not be in your favor.

You can say that not voting is losing your voice; but what's the point of having a voice if there's no one around to hear it?
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Aw, now you spelled it out.

I know, but this is one situation where it's better to educate someone than just point and laugh because they don't know. The amount of people who think otherwise is scarily high.