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Offshoot thread from here. Speaking on news channels and their political bias.
Jwalton: I don't watch MSNBC often (atleast I try not to, its what they keep the tv in the waiting room on at work, so I'll occasionally see it when I'm walking through and very rarely sit there and watch it.), so I didn't see Olbermann retract his statement, but props to him for doing it.
One of the biggest problems I had with mainstream media was how they handled the Scooter Libby fiasco. They wanted him strung up for something that he didn't even do. (Outing a covert agent). The fact is, she wasn't a covert agent. She hadn't been covert in 5 years which is required to still be considered a covert agent. He was indicted for "lying under oath". He said he first talked about it with Tim Russert, then Judith Miller came out and said he had talked to her about it about a week before. Basically, he was indicted and convicted because he couldn't remember who he talked to first about something from 3 years prior. Regardless of whether or not you believe he forgot who he talked to or that he was intentionally lying and hoping that a reporter hadn't taken notes, doesn't change that fact that mainstream media was campaigning to send him up the river because he was apparently willing to sell out a covert CIA agent to marginalize her husband's opinion on the war.
As for something more current, look at the story about McCain having an affair. NYT ran a story from a source that was HIGHLY suspect and totally unconfirmed, then CNN picks it up and runs it without checking NYT's facts. Politically motivated or not, thats highly unprofessional.
TBH, I don't watch much of any cable news channels anymore. I usually look at fox new's and cnn's websites once or twice a day and get the major highlights. If I want an informed political commentary I can call my friend who basically lives off the stuff. I wish there was a station that just ran straight facts with no spin or hidden political agenda. Ofcourse their ratings would probably be awful, but its nice to dream.
As for MSNBC, mainly I only really see Chris Matthew's and Olbermann, both of whom are so over the top that I get the same gut reaction that most of ya'll seem to get from O'Reilly. However, I find Dan Abrams to be ok. The few times I've seen it, he's far more willing call out both sides on screw ups than either Chris or Keith.
As for youtube vids, if you really want me to sift through tons of videos in hopes that I can find the specific thing I want, I may do it if I have time. I thought I'd more than shown my extreme laziness and lack of desire to link everything to back up what I didn't even consider to be an inflammatory post. (I'm getting called a liar for saying MSNBC and CNN are biased?)
Jwalton: I don't watch MSNBC often (atleast I try not to, its what they keep the tv in the waiting room on at work, so I'll occasionally see it when I'm walking through and very rarely sit there and watch it.), so I didn't see Olbermann retract his statement, but props to him for doing it.
One of the biggest problems I had with mainstream media was how they handled the Scooter Libby fiasco. They wanted him strung up for something that he didn't even do. (Outing a covert agent). The fact is, she wasn't a covert agent. She hadn't been covert in 5 years which is required to still be considered a covert agent. He was indicted for "lying under oath". He said he first talked about it with Tim Russert, then Judith Miller came out and said he had talked to her about it about a week before. Basically, he was indicted and convicted because he couldn't remember who he talked to first about something from 3 years prior. Regardless of whether or not you believe he forgot who he talked to or that he was intentionally lying and hoping that a reporter hadn't taken notes, doesn't change that fact that mainstream media was campaigning to send him up the river because he was apparently willing to sell out a covert CIA agent to marginalize her husband's opinion on the war.
As for something more current, look at the story about McCain having an affair. NYT ran a story from a source that was HIGHLY suspect and totally unconfirmed, then CNN picks it up and runs it without checking NYT's facts. Politically motivated or not, thats highly unprofessional.
TBH, I don't watch much of any cable news channels anymore. I usually look at fox new's and cnn's websites once or twice a day and get the major highlights. If I want an informed political commentary I can call my friend who basically lives off the stuff. I wish there was a station that just ran straight facts with no spin or hidden political agenda. Ofcourse their ratings would probably be awful, but its nice to dream.
As for MSNBC, mainly I only really see Chris Matthew's and Olbermann, both of whom are so over the top that I get the same gut reaction that most of ya'll seem to get from O'Reilly. However, I find Dan Abrams to be ok. The few times I've seen it, he's far more willing call out both sides on screw ups than either Chris or Keith.
As for youtube vids, if you really want me to sift through tons of videos in hopes that I can find the specific thing I want, I may do it if I have time. I thought I'd more than shown my extreme laziness and lack of desire to link everything to back up what I didn't even consider to be an inflammatory post. (I'm getting called a liar for saying MSNBC and CNN are biased?)
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