What's your pet peeve in RL?

[Caspian]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

I think the "white shaming" and "you could never understand my problems" all stem from how entitled we've become as a society today. Which itself just stems from an increasingly selfish society. "I'm owed better service." Or better grades, or better money, or a better life, or whatever. We've become very me-centric. We focus on all the perceived injustices in our own lives and ignore everything and everyone else. Instead of working harder to earn what we already have or bettering others lives which would in turn enrich our own. (I'm preaching every bit as much to myself, if no more, as anyone else on this)
Everyone has their crosses to bear. As soon as we realize all those two-legged creatures we see and deal with every day are actual people with lives as intricate and complex as our own we'll likely become a far more caring and charitable people. Particularly when we start doing it with people outside our own monkeysphere.

[DakAttack]

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Now that's a response.

[Caspian]

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I aim to please.

[cidbahamut]

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Everyone's greatest crime is being human. Everything else is just fluff.

I too am tired of hearing different groups being singled out as victims and/or villains. At the end of the day you're all fucking terrible because you're people and people are inherently terrible.

[Mezlo]

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Everyone's greatest crime is being human. Everything else is just fluff.

I too am tired of hearing different groups being singled out as victims and/or villains. At the end of the day you're all fucking terrible because you're people and people are inherently terrible.

But some are more terrible than others...

[cidbahamut]

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But some are more terrible than others...

No, some are just better at hiding it or refraining from acting on it.

[Mezlo]

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No, some are just better at hiding it or refraining from acting on it.

If murderers refrained from murdering people, they wouldn't be murderers and would be less terrible. Alot can be said for people refraining from doing things.

[cidbahamut]

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The inherent baseline of wanting to murder people is still there though. The only reason we don't indulge in that desire is because of societal conditioning and our ability to recognize that the consequences of doing that are not worth it from a risk/reward analysis standpoint. Humanity as a whole has never had a problem with murder, as evidenced by the whole of human history and the countless wars that have been waged. Just look at how soldiers are depicted from any era of human history. They're glorified and revered, but their job can really just be boiled down to killing people. That's the role soldiers fill, and humanity has historically glamorized them for it. Refraining from murder is borne out of pragmatism rather than some inherent belief that killing our fellow man is wrong.

[DakAttack]

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Killing another human being isn't always a bad thing.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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The inherent baseline of wanting to murder people is still there though.

Is there really an "inherent baseline of wanting to murder people"? For the soldier example you used, one could easily turn your evidence around and argue that society had warped otherwise decent human beings into killers by glorifying the roles and deeds of soldiers, overriding the instincts against harming fellow human beings.

Even if there is, why wouldn't those "people refraining from [murder]" be judged as superior people? I would certainly find them more pleasant to be around.

Refraining from murder is borne out of pragmatism rather than some inherent belief that killing our fellow man is wrong.

From what I can tell, every established society has prohibition against taking human life, and most have acceptable exemptions to that rule. Overall, though, most people do not engage in killing human beings. You really have to go to where society is breaking down to find large participation rate in murder.

So, is the general societal prohibition against murder a reflection of our baseline valuation of human lives?

Or, is the limited societal sanction of killing a reflection of our "baseline of wanting to murder people"?

Which, is the inherent nature of man?

[cidbahamut]

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There is no period in recorded human history during which man is not killing his fellow man, whether on an individual or group level. The conclusion I draw from that is that there is an inherent urge to do harm. The reasons for it might vary, but the urge is there and acted upon.

Not one of you can truthfully tell me you've never secretly wished harm upon another person. Anger and violence are a part of us.

[Ketaru]

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I used to wish harm on people who I perceive to have wronged me. I stopped when I realized that's actually more stressful and less productive than simply putting them out of mind. However violent our tendencies deep down might be, most of us choose to give into our urges that will lead to productivity. Sometimes, killing another human leads to the best outcome. Usually, it doesn't.

[ItazuraNhomango]

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There is no period in recorded human history during which man is not killing his fellow man, whether on an individual or group level. The conclusion I draw from that is that there is an inherent urge to do harm. The reasons for it might vary, but the urge is there and acted upon.

But, in all of history, most individuals have not taken the life of another.

Isn't then natural to conclude that the there's an inherent urge to not harm other humans--and it is stronger than the urge to harm?


Edit:
Why does murder bother us? If killing intent truly dominates us, most of us would take murder for granted, and would not need a war or slum condition to acclimate us.

So, why does murder bother us? Perhaps it's because it is actually abhorrent to us, and so alien to those of us living outside of war zones. And perhaps, just perhaps, it is because it's precisely so contrary to our nature.

[Malacite]

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Just got a 10-day ban on the XIV forums for telling someone to not be an asshat by grossly undercutting...

lol.

[Ketaru]

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When I was still on XIV: ARR, there was one particular person who constantly undercut me every time I tried to sell Crab Oils, even though it was sure as sunrise and sunset that they will sell for the high price. I would often buy his/her oils just so people (that don't bother to check the history) would never see what s/he's selling them for. The only thing keeping me from sending her angry /tells was his/her anonymity behind his/her retainer.