What's your pet peeve in RL?

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

I don't feel as though I'm being imature, but I suppose that without tonality, things I say could be misready or misunderstood.

I guess the thing I'm having an issue with is the use of the word "demonize". I don't consider publishing factual studies so that you have the data available an effort by society to "demonize" but rather inform. I don't think any of the sata has done anything to stop people honestly I see more smokers around now than I did 20 years ago.

As far as this statement goes, I'll retract the word "demonize" and replace it with "harrass". I suppose it suits the case better since because 99.99% of us are already aware of the things that you point out. I would be equally peeved if I were crossing a street (not on a sidewalk) and someone in the distance shouted, "HEY!!! YOU COULD GET HIT BY A CAR!!! THAT'S UNSAFE!!!! JAYWALKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!" or if I were eating a Cheeseburger and my neighbor shouts over the bushes, "HEY!!! THAT HAS TRANS FAT!!! YOUR ARTERIES ARE IN DANGER!!!".

Crossing a street and being hit by a car could put me in the hospital or in the dirt. Unhealthy eating could cause heart attacks, clogged arteries or stokes. I don't shout at jaywalkers and I don't tell fat people they'll die if they don't eat healthier. All I ask is that people extend me the same courtesy when I'm smoking.

My smoking differs from those examples... I know. Eating unhealthy and jaywalking don't really negatively effect those around you... excluding family. This is why I do eerything in my power to seperate myself from people while I'm smoking. I take other people to mind when I decide to have one. IMHO, if you decide to leap that invisible chalk line on the ground and approach me about my habit... you're being hypocritical and self destructive and warrent no argument.

Let the fat kid eat cake.
Let the jaywalker take his own risks
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And let me smoke in peace. Especially at work when I only have a short time alloted to me to go have a cigarette and I already waste enough time isolating myself, the last thing I want to do is waste time listening to someone tell me that I'm wrong.

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

I see more smokers around now than I did 20 years ago.

orly?

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I wonder how many cigs Yygdrasil has smoked since posting his initial smoking peeve.

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the over / under is 8.

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

It happens to everybody. Nobody magically quits. Withdrawal will probably push your marriage to the limits, and your multiplayer struggle with kicking the actual addiction wont help.

Again, where are you getting this theory from? My wife and I already quit once for 3 months. No strain was put on us what-so-ever. We never yelled at one another or took out any aggression on anyone else. Sure it was annoying to want a cigarette and tell yourself "no", but we actually provided a support system for one another during the process and if it werent for her I don't think I would have been able to do it at all.

As for why we started again. As it happens with most... I hit a rough patch in my life where I was really stressed out, in between jobs and my mother was diagnosed with MS. I took up smoking to relax myself and it helped. I could have done yoga... or "think happy thoughts" but they weren't practical. My wife and I took it back up together and made the plan that we would quit when we decided to start a family.

Nobody magically quits.

Although you're right... there's no magic involved... some people are talented and just give it up. My father-in-law for example. He smoked for over 50 years and after one minor heart attack he had the strength of will to say "I'm done". He's a man of little words and he is commited to things when he has to be. From the moment that he announced his decision to this very day... 3 years later... I have yet to see him so much as flinch. It's baffling really, but it happens. He dropped the habit as easily as you would have expected had he said "I'm not going to stab myself in the stomach with this knife anymore".

So I beg to differ my friend, you know nothing about me, my wife or what it's like to quit. All you know is what you've read, what you've looked up online... and what you assume. I appreciate your concern... and I will take your "good luck" and thank you for it. It is hard to quit.

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

Well Yyg, i smoked / dipped for 8 years, starting in college. I kept it hid from my parents. when i was home visiting i'd go on walks and take a smoke, or go run errands and take a smoke. One Christmas I decided i was done hiding and running around them, so I planned on stopping everything, cold turkey. It worked! The first week is really hard, but after that it gets alot easier. I ahvent smoked or had a dip in 5 years. I don't even think about it anymore. The first 4 years though I'd have nightmares. Nightmares that I actually had a cigarette, lol... I'd wake up sweatting, mad as hell. Then once i realized it was just a dream, I'd breathe a breath of fresh air! (no pun intended. well, maybe slightly.) If you want to do it and you stick to your convictions, it can be done.

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

I wonder how many cigs Yygdrasil has smoked since posting his initial smoking peeve.

Oh I am totally playing this game. Go ahead. Guess. Keep in mind the time of my VERY FIRST post on this thread.

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GO! XD

[cidbahamut]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

@ Chibi

If you do a websearch you'll actually find there's a lot of data on the benefis vs bad effects of occasional smoking. The only "benefit" that they have found though, study wise, is that it relaxes you momentarily by releasing certain chemicals in the brain. With tons of sensors on they didn't find anything else benefiting the body system.

Also it wasn't the surgeon general that originally found the cancer and smoking connection. It was the tabacco industry themselves that ran tests looking to find benefits who instead found a lot of bad side effects. They were so alarmed they hid it for years. Do you consider their studies biased and an effort to "demonize"?

I guess the thing I'm having an issue with is the use of the word "demonize". I don't consider publishing factual studies so that you have the data available an effort by society to "demonize" but rather inform. I don't think any of the sata has done anything to stop people honestly I see more smokers around now than I did 20 years ago.

I'm not sure, but I think this was directed at me?

I don't doubt the extensiveness of the medical testing, nor that the results were nearly unanimous in their findings that smoking is bad for your health. Yes, these findings should be published and made known. We are in agreement on that. We also agree that smoking is extremely hazardous to one's health.

What I take issue with is the idea that "smoking is bad" as opposed to "smoking is bad for you". I saw it during high school, smoking was bad, you were bad for smoking. There was no tolerance for even the possibility that smoking might be an acceptable behavior despite the risks involved. For the longest time I even bought into it. Smoking made you a bad person. That's what I thought when I was a kid. What does that say about our society and how it perceives smoking?

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

I'm going with 10.

[DakAttack]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

So I beg to differ my friend, you know nothing about me, my wife or what it's like to quit. All you know is what you've read, what you've looked up online... and what you assume. I appreciate your concern... and I will take your "good luck" and thank you for it. It is hard to quit.

Are you sure you're 25? Your personal fable is indicative of somebody much younger.

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

Well Yyg, i smoked / dipped for 8 years, starting in college. I kept it hid from my parents. when i was home visiting i'd go on walks and take a smoke, or go run errands and take a smoke. One Christmas I decided i was done hiding and running around them, so I planned on stopping everything, cold turkey. It worked! The first week is really hard, but after that it gets alot easier. I ahvent smoked or had a dip in 5 years. I don't even think about it anymore. The first 4 years though I'd have nightmares. Nightmares that I actually had a cigarette, lol... I'd wake up sweatting, mad as hell. Then once i realized it was just a dream, I'd breathe a breath of fresh air! (no pun intended. well, maybe slightly.) If you want to do it and you stick to your convictions, it can be done.

Grats on quitting man. Sounds similar to my struggle a few years ago. It happened almost the same way... appart from the fact that I wasn't hiding it from anyone.

Also... my one nightmare occurred when I tried to use a patch. I only used one... got it from a friend who quit. Slapped it on... fell asleep... woke up screaming... read the package... ripped it off... shook in the corner for 20 minutes. Not gunna do that again.

*warning. may cause vivid nightmares*

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Are you sure you're 25? Your personal fable is indicative of somebody much younger.

Haha, normally I would take offence to you calling it a fable... but I'll let that slide. I assure you I'm 25, I just turned 25 in fact on February 1st. I know this not only because... well... I'm me, but because I spent the past 11 months bitching about my car insurance bill and mumbling to myself about how much easier it will be when I turn 25 and get the discount. It chopped $78.00 a month off... not bad... not bad at all. If only they would cut my excise tax like that too.

*sigh*

Pipe-dreams

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

I'm going with 10.

10?

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

10?

Higher

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

Higher

hmmm... ok, first post was yesterday at around 4pm your time.

1 - on the car ride hom
2 - after you get home before you have dinner
3 - after dinner cig
4 - while hanging out at home in between tv shows
5 - before you goto bed
6 - when you wake up the next day
7 - on your way into work
8 - mid morning smoke break
9 - smoke before lunch
10 - smoke after lunch
11 - mid afternoon smoke
12 - smoke right before I asked the question stating the over / under as 8.

so... 12!

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

hahaha... you really were a smoker. To be perfectly honest I was doing the math and I'm somewhere between 11 and 13. I'll say that you're right... but lemme try to do this math myself:

1. Before I left work (I get out at 9:00pm)
2. On the way to the parking garage
3. In the car on the way home
4. Another in the car (reletively long drive)
5. After I had dinner
6. Between my DVR of House and my DVR of Criminal Minds
7. Before I went to sleep
8. After I got in the car in the morning
9. Another one
10. Walking from the garage to my terminal (I work for Logan International Airport. Operations Cronrol)
11. On break at 2:00pm

...and that's the last one I had. although if you really want to get technical about it. I'm about to go out for one now since I had to write all of this.

12. NOW (brb)

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

/em eats his cookie

[Yygdrasil]

Re: What's your pet peeve in RL?

And I'm back.

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Where the hell is my cookie?