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  • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

    They're not fired at a higher rate, but the enemy receives them at a higher rate since Samus moving forward means the next missile takes less time to arrive than the last.

    Here's an example (these numbers are made up):
    Samus shoots 2 missiles/second
    Missiles travel at 10 feet/second
    Samus is moving forward at a rate of 1 feet/second
    Phantoon is initially 10 feet away from Samus.

    Missile 1: Shot at t = 0s, takes (10 ft)/(10 ft/s) = 1s to arrive. Hits at t = 1s.
    Missile 2: Shot at t = 0.5s, takes (9.5 ft)/(10 ft/s) = 0.95s to arrive. Hits at t = 0.5+0.9 = 1.45s.
    Missile 3: Shot at t = 1s, takes (9 ft)/(10 ft/s) = 0.9s to arrive. Hits at t = 1+0.8 = 1.9s.
    Missile 4: Shot at t = 1.5s, takes (8.5 ft)/(10 ft/s) = 0.85s to arrive. Hits at t = 1.5+0.7 = 2.35s

    Recall that frequency = 1/T where the T is the time between shots. The shots are fired at a frequency of 1/0.5 = 2 Hz, but they're received at a frequency of 1/0.45 = 2.222 Hz, which is 11.11% faster; quite a nice improvement considering how slow Samus is moving (would take her 10 secs to run into Phantoon.)

    Falco players in SSB Melee made frequent use of the doppler effect as well, since Falco's lasers stun. Of course, if you're moving backwards, then you get the opposite effect - the frequency at which the projectiles arrive goes down.
    Last edited by Armando; 03-11-2010, 06:16 AM.

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    • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

      Ok. I'm so going to find a way to get in contact with my high school physics teacher just to show him this, for it is made of win.

      Minor correction, though: you get your numbers from Samus traveling at a rate of 2 feet/second. Missile 2 should initially start at 9.5 feet away from Phantoon, Missile 3 at 9 feet, and so on at a rate of fire of 2 missiles/second and a rate of appraoch of one foot/second. The frequency is actually 1/0.45 = 20/9, which is still a noticeable improvement.
      Originally posted by Armando
      No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
      Originally posted by Armando
      Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
      Originally posted by Taskmage
      GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

      REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

      GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

      THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
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      • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

        Oh, thanks, you're right. I was thinking in my head "next second Samus will be 9 feet away" but the next missile happens 0.5 secs later, not 1 sec. Fixing.

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        • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

          If anything I guess it serves to show that the faster you approach, the greater the improvement is to the rate your opponent gets hit.
          Originally posted by Armando
          No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
          Originally posted by Armando
          Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
          Originally posted by Taskmage
          GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

          REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

          GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

          THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
          Originally posted by Taskmage
          However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
          Matthew 16:15

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          • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

            Yeah. Since frequency is a 1/x formula it improves exponentially as T gets closer to 0 (basically what happens with your attack speed as you stock up on Haste in FFXI.) The catch is that the faster you move, the less missiles you can shoot before you close the gap given the same space, which is why the player decided to run only as fast as necessary to stun Phantoon in place.

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            • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

              Ok, so it's the second thing I thought of then.

              Would you happen to know if this is possible in a non-TAS run? As in, can the buttons be pressed in that way by a human player moving in real time?

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              • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                Would you happen to know if this is possible in a non-TAS run? As in, can the buttons be pressed in that way by a human player moving in real time?
                I'm trying, but I don't think it's realistic. Still, you can chain 3-4 missiles together.

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                • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                  Sorry about derailing the derailment here, but I just had to share. Last night my tipsy roommate divulged that he's Katie Morgan's brother-in-law (don't Google her at work) and used to be her personal assistant. He's invited me to meet her next time she's in LA. I didn't believe him when he said he had lunch with Hefner a month ago, but then I saw a picture of him and T-pain at the porn awards on his digital camera.

                  He's been living with us for two months already and he's kept this a secret the whole time?! Anyways, just had to share. Carry on.
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                  • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                    Originally posted by Cheezeman3000 View Post
                    Last night my tipsy roommate divulged that he's Katie Morgan's brother-in-law (don't Google her at work) and used to be her personal assistant.
                    Wiki:
                    "Morgan initially entered the porn industry as a means to pay off her sizeable bail and plea bargain after being arrested for transporting over 100 pounds of marijuana from Mexico into the United States in 2000.["


                    Lo-hooh-sa-errrr.
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                    ZM: Done
                    ToA: Done
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                    • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                      Originally posted by Mezlo View Post
                      Lo-hooh-sa-errrr.
                      I KNOW! Haha. Hilarious. Still doesn't change the fact I get to meet a (loser) porn star.
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                      • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                        Originally posted by Cheezeman3000 View Post
                        I KNOW! Haha. Hilarious. Still doesn't change the fact I get to meet a (loser) porn star.

                        Ask her if she's ever been snorkeled.

                        1. snorkeling 182 up, 26 down buy snorkeling mugs, tshirts and magnets
                        (variation of the roman war helmet) This maneuver is performed by placing your testicles over the eyes of your partner, forming a mask. Then the breathing apparatus is formed by placing the end of your penis into the receiver's mouth. This maneuver if preferably performed in water(bath tub, hot tub, pool etc.)
                        75: Sam, Nin, Blm, Thf, Pld, Cor, Rdm
                        RANK 10 Bastok
                        CoP: Done
                        ZM: Done
                        ToA: Done
                        Assault rank: Captain
                        Campaign Medal: Medals
                        Wotg: Complete the quests already and I'll start

                        Originally posted by Etra
                        This thread brought to you by Malacite's lack of understanding.

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                        • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                          Originally posted by Mezlo View Post
                          Ask her if she's ever been snorkeled.

                          1. snorkeling 182 up, 26 down buy snorkeling mugs, tshirts and magnets
                          (variation of the roman war helmet) This maneuver is performed by placing your testicles over the eyes of your partner, forming a mask. Then the breathing apparatus is formed by placing the end of your penis into the receiver's mouth. This maneuver if preferably performed in water(bath tub, hot tub, pool etc.)
                          Ok. But may I ask, why this particular maneuver? There are many others to choose from...
                          Hume M - War lv.10 - Bastok

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                          • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                            Probably because it's quite bizarre.
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                            • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                              I would sooner ask about the "Boston Tea Party."
                              Hume M - War lv.10 - Bastok

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                              • Re: Official bored at work / just shooting the shit / no rails to derail thread

                                Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
                                Probably because it's quite bizarre.
                                You people are so boring sometimes.

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