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    Bob Tur is the little guy who is suing one giant (Google) to do what another giant (Viacom) probably never will — shut YouTube down.

    A single bottle broke the calm, shattering in the late-afternoon sun. Then another...and another. A few men walked into Tom's Liquor and walked out quicker than would be possible if they'd paid. A family followed, tossing groceries into the intersection of Florence and Normandie in the heart of South Central Los Angeles.

    Bob Tur, a pilot and photojournalist, hovered above the unfolding chaos in his helicopter, along with his copilot, his camerawoman wife, his lawyer, and a 9mm semiautomatic pistol. Fifteen years later, he still recalls the details of the scene with the precision of a war memory. There was Larry Tarvin, who was pulled from his truck and kicked in the ribs, shoulder, and face. That's when the shots started. Tur's chopper began taking hits as the throng below pummeled another trucker, Reginald Denny, with a cement block, a tire iron, and a fire extinguisher.

    Tur knew this was coming, he says, having spent weeks in advance of the Rodney King verdict interviewing gangbangers, church leaders, whomever, asking what would happen if the jury acquitted four white cops. The Crips told Tur they'd try to kill as many white people as possible. So when the call came at 3:15 p.m. on April 29, 1992, Tur, whose fledgling news-video company was pioneering helicopter coverage of breaking events, knew where to go. He arrived on the scene before anyone else and recorded many of the images people now associate with the L.A. riots.

    Over the years, he estimates, the Denny tape has generated about $5 million in licensing fees. But Tur has spent almost an equal amount filing lawsuits to protect his content. All of which led to the day last spring when he happened upon an article in The Wall Street Journal about an upstart video-sharing Website whose users were uploading clips of dogs skateboarding and grandmothers belching and, oh yeah, copyrighted news footage. Tur logged on and, after two clicks, watched his Denny video. A few weeks later, like a small bottle tossed before the mob of big entertainment companies like Viacom began their battle for control of digital media, Tur became the first person to sue YouTube for copyright infringement.

    Tur wants YouTube shuttered until its parent company, Google, can guarantee his videos and other copyrighted content won't reappear after being taken down. And even if there's a filtering technology out there that really works (despite Google's April announcement of such a technology, Tur is skeptical), he wants a court to say the law doesn't shield YouTube-like services, so he's protected from whatever site becomes the next big thing.
    Source: http://men.msn.com/articlees.aspx?cp...008&;gt1=10215

    The information is really long so I just quoted what I thought was "enough" to know what's happening so far.

    P.S. Topic came from the link =/


    Aaliyah is more than a woman and she graduated with a 4.0 GPA (she only had 1 "C" grade ever in her life).

    I bolded and underlined the "is" just for you, Malacite.

  • #2
    Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

    eh. If youtube shuts down people will just find a different video site. Plenty of them in asia from what I've seen.

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    • #3
      Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

      Prime example... veoh.com

      Another one is stage6 over at divx.com

      No worries.

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      • #4
        Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

        YouTube's becoming flooded with stupid as it is.

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        • #5
          Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

          YouTube is like Napster. You may be able to shut it down or control YouTube, but the other sites it has now spawned?

          Yeah, good luck with that.

          Here's the problem, though, YouTube has become more than just some place to view/share copyrighted material, its become a place where people can put thier productions and show thier face and opinions to the world. Its an outlet for speech.

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          • #6
            Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

            Originally posted by Eohmer View Post
            Prime example... veoh.com

            Another one is stage6 over at divx.com

            No worries.
            Veoh is nice. It has great quality from what I've seen.


            Aaliyah is more than a woman and she graduated with a 4.0 GPA (she only had 1 "C" grade ever in her life).

            I bolded and underlined the "is" just for you, Malacite.

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            • #7
              Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

              Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
              YouTube is like Napster. You may be able to shut it down or control YouTube, but the other sites it has now spawned?
              Yeah, good luck with that.
              Here's the problem, though, YouTube has become more than just some place to view/share copyrighted material, its become a place where people can put thier productions and show thier face and opinions to the world. Its an outlet for speech.
              It's not really a true outlet of free speech. I had somebody flag my videos because my animation had a potty mouth an said A$$ twice. Si Youtube pulled it down. Sad part is it was a W.I.P for a friend who lives in Texas so he could view it easily.

              I have posted a couple of copyrighted images just to get them pulled. I also had tribute videos pulled as well. So they are really becoming quite sensitive about what they will allow to be seen.

              Once Sept roles around i think Youtube will lose its popularity if it hasn't already. I know i don't use it as much unless i need friends to view my work real quick.

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              • #8
                Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

                little ninja, that's abnormal. Normally those sorts of videos just get flagged as adult.


                ...Unless, of course, the option to tag as 'adult' is part of the upload, which you neglected.

                And of course they're pulling copyright violations, it's fuckwits that cause them all sorts of problems. If it weren't for people who had to upload illegal content, they could nix quite a bit of their staff.
                Last edited by Icemage; 08-05-2007, 05:27 PM. Reason: Moderator's Edit: No flaming, please.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

                  Originally posted by little ninja View Post
                  It's not really a true outlet of free speech. I had somebody flag my videos because my animation had a potty mouth an said A$$ twice. Si Youtube pulled it down. Sad part is it was a W.I.P for a friend who lives in Texas so he could view it easily.

                  I have posted a couple of copyrighted images just to get them pulled. I also had tribute videos pulled as well. So they are really becoming quite sensitive about what they will allow to be seen.

                  Once Sept roles around i think Youtube will lose its popularity if it hasn't already. I know i don't use it as much unless i need friends to view my work real quick.
                  Tell that to whoever's putting all those "Family Guy" clips on the site. Seriously: .

                  (I hate "Family Guy," and my brother here isn't really alleviating that hatred by pulling up all those videos.)

                  But, as for the future of You Tube . . . "Ask Again Later."
                  Originally posted by Armando
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                  Originally posted by Armando
                  Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
                  Originally posted by Taskmage
                  GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

                  REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

                  GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

                  THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
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                  However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
                  Matthew 16:15

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Man Who Could Kill YouTube

                    Originally posted by Feba View Post
                    little ninja, that's abnormal. Normally those sorts of videos just get flagged as adult.
                    ...Unless, of course, the option to tag as 'adult' is part of the upload, which you neglected.
                    And of course they're pulling copyright violations, it's fuckwits like you that cause them all sorts of problems. If it weren't for people like yourself who had to upload illegal content, they could nix quite a bit of their staff.
                    An back when i was uploading videos they didn't have an over 18 policy. I don't know if things have changed. I haven't had the need to use youtube in awhile. Next time i have to upload i guess i will find out.

                    As for why my videos got pulled. At the time they were not concerned about their material on the popular site. As a buddy of mine got us the go ahead to post their videos and make tribute videos. But when the company got bought out. The new company owned the copyrights and pulled the images.

                    It doesn't matter what you put up on Youtube it gets pulled. A 30min show or a 15second clip from a show you died from laughter from. An if you wanted to get technical you can pull at least 90% of the videos on Youtube for some illegal copyright infringements. Products, shows, clips, music. An about 1 zillion F.G clips ><

                    Whats these companies don't know about is the fact were swapping this stuff on a ton of other sites.
                    Last edited by Icemage; 08-05-2007, 05:28 PM.

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