What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

[NicasinXS]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

You must be joking. By your logic, America is a country of black women. Last I checked, I'm not black and I'm not a woman. Hell, the only person in power who fits that profile that I can think of is Condeleeza rice and she's Bush's patsy. And you say Don Imus would have gotten off if the basketball players were men? That has to be a joke. If anything, the response would be worse because the players would act out. The point is, Don said "nappy-headed". And apparently, black people have a copyright on that term too.



Ever hear of the Aryan Brotherhood? They manage to commit crimes quite easily while being isolated from society. And at that rate, it would be more expensive to keep people alive. All that torturing equipment and staff. And you know there would be a hell of a lot more appeals if that's the fate people suffered in jail.

My sentence said "This is a womans country" not black woman, and its called hypothetical. Get a clue.

[eticket109]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Quoted for truth.
You say "neo-Calvanist," I say "apathetic," and somebody else says "lazy."

I'm sure there are other words that work too, but I don't feel like looking them up.

[Taskmage]

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Wiki:

[T]he central issue in Calvinist theology that is often used to represent the whole is the system's particular soteriology (doctrine of salvation), which emphasizes that man is incapable of adding anything from himself to obtain salvation and that God alone is the initiator at every stage of salvation, including the formation of faith and every decision to follow Christ.

There's nothing you can do to save yourself. God is omnipresent and omnipotent, so if you become a good person, sole credit and responsibility go to Him; you are impotent in the matter. Replace God with society or the pet external factor of your choice and you have the prevailing attitide today.

[Yellow Mage]

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There's nothing you can do to save yourself. God is omnipresent and omnipotent, so if you become a good person, sole credit and responsibility go to Him; you are impotent in the matter. Replace God with society or the pet external factor of your choice and you have the prevailing attitide today.

I know what Calvanism is. That very philosophy of "there's nothing you can do" is where I got apathetic from, and I really think it can apply just as well.

. . . Unless I'm missing what you meant completely.

[Feba]

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Wow, didn't think you were being serious on that post, Feba..

You didn't think I was a sadistic bastard who enjoyed the suffering of other people? Do you know me?

I know I'll be a hands on parent.

As long as you mean that you're actually going to put in effort (homeschool, give them experience in practical things as well as fun, instill morals and common sense) and not "hands on their asses. Repeatedly. Oh, and the hand is going near the ass fast enough to make me cold from the wind."

[Raydeus]

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While I'd rather see the death penalty implemented for crimes like rape, torture, kidnapping and others, making inmates have to work and pay to society not only with time but money would be a much better and practical way to handle things.

Make them work to pay for 100% of their expenses and the rest of the money is split between the victims and the legal system to offset future case's costs (with a small % going to an account so the inmate has at least some money to start with after their release).

Although we would then see a bunch of activists complaining about inmates being treated as slaves. And as far as I've seen human rights activists seem to only care about the criminal's rights so they could actually pull that claim and sue the government and maybe even the victims.

[Omni]

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I dont think you can blame the the media for putting it on the news. Vick puts himself out there to begin with. Not just with this, but with his antics on the field. He's not the franchise player they pay him to be. He's not the good example marquis players should be like. You have him plastered all over the place with heavy endorsements and a nice fat contract but whats so damn shocking about it is that this is something he doesnt need to do. What are the motives to do such a thing (in his case) OTHER than perverted pleasure? That's why its plastered all over the place.

Millionaire superstar likes to kill dogs for shits and giggles. Pretty news worthy if you ask me.

I have a feeling of where you are heading with this Wishmaster. I really dont feel it has anything to do with that.

[Taskmage]

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I know what Calvanism is. That very philosophy of "there's nothing you can do" is where I got apathetic from, and I really think it can apply just as well.
. . . Unless I'm missing what you meant completely.

No, I think I misunderstood you. Still I think there's an important distinction between apathetic, not caring that there's a problem, or lazy, just not caring enough to act, and thinking that any action you try to take would be fruitless, or possibly that because there's not a solution there's not really a problem.

[DakAttack]

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As long as you mean that you're actually going to put in effort (homeschool, give them experience in practical things as well as fun, instill morals and common sense) and not "hands on their asses. Repeatedly. Oh, and the hand is going near the ass fast enough to make me cold from the wind."

I meant I was going to hit my kids.

[Malacite]

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I stand behind the guy. What he said was horribly distasteful yes, but all he did was expose in plain terms the gross hypocracy that others were already expressing in more polite language. Raping a woman is being treated with more leniency and discretion than this dog fighting thing simply because the novelty of it has caused it to draw more political and media attention. It effectively sends a message that a dog's well-being is more important than the sanctity of a woman's body because women get raped all the time. It's disgusting, and it's really a shame that that viewpoint has probably lost all credibility now just because this guy made his point in such an offensive way.

Q. F. T.


I agree whole heartedly. Damn the media for all the sensationalizing these days. What the hell ever happened to human decency and standards?

[Yellow Mage]

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No, I think I misunderstood you. Still I think there's an important distinction between apathetic, not caring that there's a problem, or lazy, just not caring enough to act, and thinking that any action you try to take would be fruitless, or possibly that because there's not a solution there's not really a problem.

I see where you're coming from, and I can't say I fully disagree.

But I also think that they are all linked to your originally posted problem of lack of initiative.

Still, from where your coming from, I can totally see how "neo-Calvanism" is best linked to a distinctive habit of everybody refusing to take the blame. Except, in that school of thought, where's the blame to go other than to the higher authority?

The utter hypocrisy of it all . . . I see what you mean. But, in my opinion, saying something along the lines of "I couldn't really have done anything about *insert problem here* because the higher authority has decreed that I shouldn't have" really sounds like a lazy excuse to me. To be able to continue on like that without learning anything shows apathy, to me, and to continue blaming anybody but yourself really makes you reduce yourself to the status of a tool. I could rant about this all night, if I wanted . . .

I do belive there is a God, and I also belive that He didn't give us a free will just for us to let it atrophy, even though, by that very free will, that is technically an option.

[PhiberOpticks]

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My sentence said "This is a womans country" not black woman, and its called hypothetical. Get a clue.

First of all, if that was a hypothetical, you would have said "If this were a woman's country". Also, you didn't get how I combined your reference to woman and blacks. Speaking of getting a clue, you should understand what you're saying before you criticize my criticism.

[WishMaster3K]

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Condy for Pres 2012.

Edit:
No, 2016, because Obama is going for a Dual Term.

[Mhurron]

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I meant I was going to hit my kids.

Late, but I fully support this.

So many of those damn little bastards have it coming to them.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Fuck that, I'm putting my kids in the Kut.

Kudos to you if you know what that is.