What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

[DakAttack]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

That hasn't been scientifically proven... yet...

[Feba]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Btw, death sentences are a hell of a lot cheaper than life ones.

Eh. In the old "take them out back and shoot them" days sure, but nowadays when you consider the complexity and legal costs involved with a death penalty case, it's not a big a difference as you'd think.

The estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case. Death penalty case costs were counted through to execution (median cost $1.26 million). Non-death penalty case costs were counted through to the end of incarceration (median cost $740,000).

Penal colonies could also work. We aren't really using the arctic or Sahara for anything, just make a great big wall around a couple hundred square feet of them, put guards around the towers, and let the prisoners fend for themselves. Bonus points if you add two walls, and make anyone spotted outside the inner wall free to shoot at for guards or people who just want to shoot criminals.

[Skoal]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Penal colonies could also work. We aren't really using the arctic or Sahara for anything, just make a great big wall around a couple hundred square feet of them, put guards around the towers, and let the prisoners fend for themselves. Bonus points if you add two walls, and make anyone spotted outside the inner wall free to shoot at for guards or people who just want to shoot criminals.

Call Kurt Russell! Escape from Antarctica!

All the appealing the prisoners do accumulates most of the "death penalty" cases I would presume.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Penal colonies could also work. We aren't really using the arctic or Sahara for anything..

Only, there'd be 1 or 2 super criminals in there who make a plan (similar to Prison Break ) and escape.

Of course... if they were Master Minds, they wouldn't get caught in the first place..

[Feba]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

All the appealing the prisoners do accumulates most of the "death penalty" cases I would presume.

It is the legal system, yes. A death penalty case is something like sixteen times more expensive, the appeals are over twenty times the expense. I believe the actual incarceration and execution is about half the cost.

And wishmaster, it's not so much about escaping as it would be about leaving them to die in misery. Dehydrated people who are starving to death don't escape.

And just for the hell of it we don't give them clothes and tattoo symbols all over their bodies, so they'd be easy to identify if they ever got out.

[Taskmage]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

The estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case. Death penalty case costs were counted through to execution (median cost $1.26 million). Non-death penalty case costs were counted through to the end of incarceration (median cost $740,000).

Stupid legal system.

[PhiberOpticks]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Capital punishment is retarded.

A life sentence with daily torture is much more effective in discouraging crime.

It's a hell of a lot harder to commit a crime when you're dead. Just make the death painful.

parents are more lazy to disapline their children,

No, parents go to jail for disciplining their kids.

Any worse, and we'll see porn dumbed down to the level of 4Kids TV and movies rated R just for saying heck. >_>;;;

This is just speculation, but I don't see any good reason as to why sex is hidden in our culture. All it does is makes our kids stupid when it comes to sex education.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Wow, didn't think you were being serious on that post, Feba.. my apoligies.

Phiber, I agree. There are great parents, like mine, who raised me to have common sense and to have my own morality not influenced by social concepts, and to know the difference between right and wrong. If I see something I don't like or I know it's "wrong," by my own meanings of the term, I won't associate with it.

The parents who I see reacting negatively to things on TV and/or the media are the issue. I'm not going to call a parent subpar, but at the very least, have faith in your children and/or the way you raised them. Kids are more smart than given credit for..

The fact that many of the aforementioned parents try to shelter their kids turns into ignorance, racism, and unawareness. I think that If you were raised in an understanding household, and exposed to different cultures and such, it's unfathomable to be racism to someone not like yourself.

But then again, there is a limit. Free speech should not be moderated, as long as the tone is not destructive. But then again, ANYTHING can sound destructive to different people..

[PhiberOpticks]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

I'd be willing to call parents subpar. A majority of parents don't take responsibility for their actions. When something goes wrong, they don't call their own parenting into question, they pull everyone else's actions into question.

[NicasinXS]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

I think the male reporter got fired becuase of his really bad choice of words. He certainly could of gotten the same point accross if he had said "better off being charged with rape" then "better off raping a woman" without being fired.

This country is a womans country. The Don Imus guy would probably not have been fired if he was making any comment pertaining to a basketball team of black men as long as the N word isn't used.

[Armando]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

It's a hell of a lot harder to commit a crime when you're dead. Just make the death painful.

That logic can go both ways. It's also a hell of a lot harder to commit crimes against a society you're isolated from, and living in torture can be argued to be worse than a painful death.

[PhiberOpticks]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

This country is a womans country. The Don Imus guy would probably not have been fired if he was making any comment pertaining to a basketball team of black men as long as the N word isn't used.

You must be joking. By your logic, America is a country of black women. Last I checked, I'm not black and I'm not a woman. Hell, the only person in power who fits that profile that I can think of is Condeleeza rice and she's Bush's patsy. And you say Don Imus would have gotten off if the basketball players were men? That has to be a joke. If anything, the response would be worse because the players would act out. The point is, Don said "nappy-headed". And apparently, black people have a copyright on that term too.

That logic can go both ways. It's also a hell of a lot harder to commit crimes against a society you're isolated from, and living in torture can be argued to be worse than a painful death.

Ever hear of the Aryan Brotherhood? They manage to commit crimes quite easily while being isolated from society. And at that rate, it would be more expensive to keep people alive. All that torturing equipment and staff. And you know there would be a hell of a lot more appeals if that's the fate people suffered in jail.

[Taskmage]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

I'd be willing to call parents subpar. A majority of parents don't take responsibility for their actions. When something goes wrong, they don't call their own parenting into question, they pull everyone else's actions into question.

That's not just parents, that's everyone. America has gone neo-Calvinist. People don't even take responsibility for their state of being much less their actions or the repercussions of their actions because their environment shaped them into who they are, be it their parents or their neighborhood or the global culture. Sad? Genetic predisposition to depression. Overweight? Food company's neglect of the nutritional components of your diet. Psychopath? Victim of a traumatic childhood. Don't recycle? Infrastructure provided by the local government isn't convenient enough.

People today don't seem to realize that choices involve a decision.

[DakAttack]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

That's not just parents, that's everyone. America has gone neo-Calvinist. People don't even take responsibility for their state of being much less their actions or the repercussions of their actions because their environment shaped them into who they are, be it their parents or their neighborhood or the global culture. Sad? Genetic predisposition to depression. Overweight? Food company's neglect of the nutritional components of your diet. Psychopath? Victim of a traumatic childhood. Don't recycle? Infrastructure provided by the local government isn't convenient enough.

People today don't seem to realize that choices involve a decision.

I consider us a society of victims. People blame their problems on every one but themselves. Parents expect the teachers to discipline their kids, and the teachers expect the parents to do it. Nobody really wants the responsibility for themselves much less others.

I know I'll be a hands on parent.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

That's not just parents, that's everyone. America has gone neo-Calvinist. People don't even take responsibility for their state of being much less their actions or the repercussions of their actions because their environment shaped them into who they are, be it their parents or their neighborhood or the global culture. Sad? Genetic predisposition to depression. Overweight? Food company's neglect of the nutritional components of your diet. Psychopath? Victim of a traumatic childhood. Don't recycle? Infrastructure provided by the local government isn't convenient enough.

People today don't seem to realize that choices involve a decision.

Quoted for truth.

You say "neo-Calvanist," I say "apathetic," and somebody else says "lazy."