What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

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Reporter sorry for Vick comment

Pittsburgh reporter said Vick better off raping woman

Posted: Wednesday August 1, 2007 3:17PM; Updated: Wednesday August 1, 2007 3:19PM

PITTSBURGH (AP) -- A newspaper reporter who said Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick would have been "better off raping a woman" than being charged with dogfighting has apologized and will no longer appear on the local sports panel TV show where he made the remark.
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reporter Paul Zeise made the comments Sunday night on the Sports Showdown show on KDKA-TV, a CBS affiliate. He was disagreeing with another panelist who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should suspend Vick for the rest of the season because he was indicted on federal dogfighting charges July 17.
"It's really a sad day in this country when somehow ... Michael Vick would have been better off raping a woman if you look at the outcry of what happened," Zeise said. "Had he done that, he probably would have been suspended for four games and he'd be back on the field. But because this has become a political issue, all of a sudden the commissioner has lost his stomach for it."
Zeise apologized Monday.
"I regret the poor choice of analogies I used to characterize a professional athlete's legal situation," Zeise said.
KDKA apologized on its Monday newscasts and said Zeise, one of a group of rotating panelists on the show, will not be invited back.
Zeise's "insensitive and offensive" remarks "do not represent the view of the Post-Gazette," the newspaper said in a statement Monday.
Vick, 27, has pleaded not guilty to the charges and said in a statement that he looks forward to "clearing my good name."
Goodell has already barred Vick from training camp and Vick has lost several endorsement deals over the gruesome allegations.
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Wow. That was not a wise decision at all to say that.

[Skoal]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Look at the football players who have been in trouble for drugs, murder, rape etc. A good number of them are still playing. To me selling drugs to people or killing someone is far worse than a dog fighting ring. I love my dog and hate seeing other dogs suffer.

This should be a wake up call for all athletes. The league should take more action when the players are involved in illegal activities.

[Feba]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Eh, it's pretty much true, though.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Not if the woman he raped was of a ethnicity other than his own.

Ok, nvm I won't go there.

I hate PETA. They treat animals better than they treat people. We didn't rise to the top of the food chain to GIVE BACK to the environment and ecosystem.

Sheesh. People nowadays.

[Taskmage]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

I stand behind the guy. What he said was horribly distasteful yes, but all he did was expose in plain terms the gross hypocracy that others were already expressing in more polite language. Raping a woman is being treated with more leniency and discretion than this dog fighting thing simply because the novelty of it has caused it to draw more political and media attention. It effectively sends a message that a dog's well-being is more important than the sanctity of a woman's body because women get raped all the time. It's disgusting, and it's really a shame that that viewpoint has probably lost all credibility now just because this guy made his point in such an offensive way.

[Feba]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

PETA treating animals better than they do people is bullshit. They like animals, yes, but if you made them choose between a human and an animal, the sane ones would pick the human. They'd feel sorry for the dog, but they'd pick the human.

And anyway, we don't have much of a choice. We *can't* give back to the environment, we *can* however stop the shit we're doing now. What humans are doing now is basically like running through your only corn field with a hummer, for the hell of it. Sure, it's alright now, but once you get done crushing it, you're not going to have anything left to eat.

[Skoal]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

the sane ones

There are always fanatics in every group that stand out more than anything else.

I have seen two things that PETA has done personally. The first was one ordering Taco Bell in the the drive thru in the PETA van.

The second was when PETA was protesting a horse show and one of the protesters attacked a guy putting a saddle on a horse.

I wish people would harass drug dealers, rapists, child molesters and murderers as much as the PETA people seem to do.

[Sevv]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Rape would have been a much easier thing to get around, He is a rich superstar. He is loved by fans and then for a women to later cry rape for money has happened alot easy to get out of it. GL Vick I am still a fan.

[Vyuru]

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Taskmage sums it up nicely. Quite honestly though I don't find what he said to be that offensive. He only said that the football player in question would have had a lighter sentence if he had raped someone, he did not say he should have raped a woman, there is a big difference there.


And for the PETA thing, gotta love it when they eat eggs, especially the unfertilized eggs :D

Because ya know, unfertilized eggs are nothing more than the soulless unborn young of chickens.

[Feba]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Because ya know, unfertilized eggs are nothing more than the soulless unborn young of chickens.

In the same way that a piece of shit is a digital watch, yes.

[eticket109]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Crimes against kids and crimes against animals have always been looked upon more harshly then crimes against adults. I don't think PETA has really had much to do with the fervor surrounding the Vick incident. Most people nowadays don't even pay attention to what PETA does anymore. They fall into the same protest group as Jesse and Al and others that seem to have lost their way long ago. People overall seem to be more affected by crimes against animals. The overall defenselessness, innocence and trust of an animal lead to more empathy when someone hurts one. The reporter was right though. If he had committed a sexual assault, it wouldn't have resulted in as much of a public outcry. That doesn't necessarily make one crime better or worse then the other, its just how we react to it.

[Omni]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

Not if the woman he raped was of a ethnicity other than his own.
Ok, nvm I won't go there.
I hate PETA. They treat animals better than they treat people. We didn't rise to the top of the food chain to GIVE BACK to the environment and ecosystem.
Sheesh. People nowadays.

PETA doesnt conduct itself in a graceful manner sometimes but, if you see what happens to animals out there by big corporations you'd be pretty sickened yourself. I'm not sure if that's your sarcasm again but anyhow...

Someone said the development of a country can be seen in how well they treat their animals. (if you can't remember who said that, it was Ghandi).

Allowing shit like this to happen doesnt make us any better than say countries like China, which their solution to a rabies out break isnt to vaccinate or educate but instead to just cull 50,000 dogs in the area. With no regards to life at all. Dogs, even ones with collars and belonging to families were taken from their homes and bludgeoned or shot.

Vick isnt shit anyways. Way too over hyped for the caliber of crap he puts on the field. Of course, he has that thug player persona so I guess that's what sells. Nike, coke/pepsi and whoever else should spend more time on endorsing athletes that are awesome on the field and off. LT is pretty much the top of the top in the NFL but do you see nike pushing endorsements for him as they do for that 'i cant pass for shit unless its to the other team' vick? No, you dont because LT is actually a nice modest guy. Not some talent destroying ball hog.

[Akashimo]

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Sadly, its just pitaful on how people react to different crimes these days. Honestly, one of the ones that should have most harsher sentencing are crimes against people, espically violent and/or sexual kinds. I don't get why there's more hype over crimes against animals. I just don't see how there is. As for PETA, I recall back in freshman year of highschool, there was a group that broke into a lab with man raised animals as research subjects with the purpose of setting them free into the wild. Then comes one of my favorit episodes of South Park to mind which can pretty be extreme, you know the one with Stan not wanting to vote after peta didn't like the school using a cow for a mascott and they need to pick a new one.

[Omni]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

It's not just crimes against animals. It's just inhumane treatment in general.

I dont think anything deserves to be shoved tightly together with 4 other animals to a crate and tossed 10 feet off a truck then skinned alive just for its fur. Or to be walking around with open wounds bleeding and infected then to be starved to death.

[DakAttack]

Re: What's worse: rape or dog-fight organizing?

South Park is terrible, end of story.

Dog-fghting is a very gruesome activity, not unlike rape, but in a very different way. Innocent animals are raised as killers and forced to kill each other for the entertainment of others. They have no other option, they have no control, no say in their own lives.

Of course it's not that bad because they're only dogs, right? They don't feel pain, or have emotions. Those are exclusive to humans.