Parapsychology

[AngryUndead]

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No ... and No.

Though I get the Deja Vu sense a lot.

Edit: Though != Thought... sens != sense

[DakAttack]

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I like reading my horoscope.

[Sokarr]

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1) Not really.

2) Yes, several times.

[Virgil]

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Haven't had much time to look at the thread but since I'm staying from school today I figured I should.

isnt it numerology an not numberology?

You're right, I didn't have my Psychology book with me so I just named some of the examples off the top of my head, I'll change it right now.

[Tatha-Kitten]

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1. in most cases yes.

2. all the time, it's not always a nice experience either.

[Suichi]

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I don't know how to explain it, but sometimes I have moments where I KNOW I have seen this before, but I haven't but I feel it the instant I see it.

Weird, huh?

[Xplore]

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Parapsyc is tricky subject that is shrowded in conjecture/coincidence.

Logically I have to say that in the universe, I find it hard not to believe anything is possible. Humanity was told it will never fly, it will never achieve orbit, ect.

We have five senses with which to experience the world, and all of those are limited in the ranges of information we can percieve (sight - we can only see a certain spectrum, hearing - we can only hear a limited spectrum, touch - sensitive to cold/heat, etc) These ranges seem to have a duality to them, we need the ranges to differentiate the world, but too much input would drive us insane (sensory overload). These ranges, while allowing us to separate certian cognitions, also limit us in what we are perceiving. Thus, the brain has to fill in some information.

I feel the grey area around the limits of our perception is where the phemomina of 'parapsychology' lies.

Another way to look at it would be to think of the dual nature of matter/energy. Every piece of matter (and combination of matter - like a desk) has a 'natural' frequency or a resonance frequency. One frequency will have an effect on another (and if those are in resonance then they will be amplified). Our senses are based on the interpretation of frequencies from the outside environment. Maybe some people are able to percieve frequecies that others cant and that gives them a greater perception of the world around them than others have.

[Ryouken]

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Parapsyc is tricky subject that is shrowded in conjecture/coincidence.

Logically I have to say that in the universe, I find it hard not to believe anything is possible. Humanity was told it will never fly, it will never achieve orbit, ect.

We have five senses with which to experience the world, and all of those are limited in the ranges of information we can percieve (sight - we can only see a certain spectrum, hearing - we can only hear a limited spectrum, touch - sensitive to cold/heat, etc) These ranges seem to have a duality to them, we need the ranges to differentiate the world, but too much input would drive us insane (sensory overload). These ranges, while allowing us to separate certian cognitions, also limit us in what we are perceiving. Thus, the brain has to fill in some information.

I feel the grey area around the limits of our perception is where the phemomina of 'parapsychology' lies.

Another way to look at it would be to think of the dual nature of matter/energy. Every piece of matter (and combination of matter - like a desk) has a 'natural' frequency or a resonance frequency. One frequency will have an effect on another (and if those are in resonance then they will be amplified). Our senses are based on the interpretation of frequencies from the outside environment. Maybe some people are able to percieve frequecies that others cant and that gives them a greater perception of the world around them than others have.

... wow

You bring up a good point, what your saying is that some ppl who think they are undergoing some type of para-psychosis, are merely experiencing a heightening of the
senses... a very logical analysis

[Rodin]

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... wow

You bring up a good point, what your saying is that some ppl who think they are undergoing some type of para-psychosis, are merely experiencing a heightening of the
senses... a very logical analysis

The true number of people who actually see this are so miniscule, that it's almost impossible to find a "true" event where this has happened. With every reported event of a Paranormal Phenomenon, you always have to rule out the:

People who want notoriety.

People who want to make a quick buck.

People who make it up out of sheer boredom.

And Occum's Razor (The simplest explanation is probably the correct one.)

When Xplore said that people's brain has to fill in some of the information, that's also where a lot of the "mystery" is from. Like I said before, it's all about people's interpretation of things.

Now, here's an example of Occum's Razor, but most people seem to think what they percieved.

Alien Abductions.

What people who have gone through the event believe: They were abducted by Aliens and experimented on.

Most simple explanation: Night Terrors.

A night terror is not a nightmare. Nightmares occur in Stages 3 and 4 of sleep. Which are the deepest states of sleep. Night terrors occur in R.E.M. (Rapid Eye Movement) which is the lightest stage of sleep. You also tend to have the most vivid dreams (not nightmares) in R.E.M. sleep. There's a few symptoms to night terrors, which include the following:

Increased heart-rate.

Cold Sweats.

Sense of awareness (I.E. being completely awake, but you're not really conscious).

Inability to move. (Paralysis) (When you sleep, your body paralyzes you, in order to keep you from acting out your dreams, when this does not occur, you have sleep walking).

Feeling of Terror. (Which explains the cold sweats, and heart rate).

Sense of Presence. (That something is there with you.)

Now, during this stage of sleep, you're also having a dream, and since it's R.E.M. sleep, you'll be able to recall it. Many describe flashing lights, and weird noises, many of which can't be explained. Because to be honest, they were all in the "abductee's" head.

I'm not ruling out that they weren't abducted by aliens, but with the lack of evidence, Occum's Razor takes priority over the explanation of the abductee in question.

Until you can give me unrefuted evidence, you weren't abducted in my mind.

[Taskmage]

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I have a friend who suffers from a combination of narcolepsy and the night terrors you described. It must be a hell of an existence to be going about your business every day and suddenly have nightmare images surround you where you sit, paralyzed and unable to move. I'd never thought of alien abductions in the context, but it does explain a lot of the traits that abduction stories have in common.

I believe in ghosts because my family experienced them quite a bit. When my great grandfather died he hung around for awhile. My dad would have conversations with him and he would flash the lights in a room to let us know he was there, which you can explain away fairly easily, but it's harder to explain away physical things like the comics page being laid out on the couch like he used to do for my dad when he was little when nobody had opened the newspaper.

Both my parents work in hospitals, which are saturated in routines, death and strong emotions. When a wing of the hospital they both worked in for a while was being shut down, they noticed a lot of things; things that you wouldn't even notice when a lot of people are around but become more pronounced when the place gets abandoned. My mom would be making a bed in an empty room and someone else would pull up the sheet and tuck the corner on the other side for her. Things like that.

I don't believe in numerology, astrology, or any of that divination crap, but as a result of the above I have a strong belief in the power of the spirit and extra-physical powers and senses.