America, We've Been Shanked

[WishMaster3K]

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It was a friend of mine, lol. He was trying to be slick, but my sarcasm is outta control >.>

[WishMaster3K]

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Loose Change is a good way to burn an hour, but if you believe everything you see on the internet, then I'm selling some ocean front property in Colorado on Ebay for cheap if you're interested.

By the way, this is being released into theatres this summer, and just because it's on the internet doesn't make it false. Ask yourself simple questions like:

Where was the "plane" that hit the pentagon? (http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main)
and
Where was the "plane" that "crashed" in Pennsylvania, and a lot of the questions and speculation that the movie brings up cause us to ask questions.

To blindly pass it off as false is being no more or a sheep than our government has made us into over the past 230 years.

Irag
Afghanistan
Homeland Security
Patriot Act
Oil "Crisis"

Think about those before you utter "what would the government have to gain from this?"

[Caspian]

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Lets just be clear about the oil "crisis". High prices for gas don't change the tax the government puts on it. In fact, when gas goes through the roof (like now) any small change in tax on barrels of oil and such is offset by the number people buying less gas.
Mobil just posted the 5th largest profit for any company in a quarter, EVER. A private company is bending us over and we're just taking it. Should the government get involved? Hell no. That would be socialistic, they start telling companies what they can charge and they get one step closer to running those companies. No thanks.
(Fyi, senate is actually discussing reducing the tax on oil and gasoline to lessen the burden on the consumer. Yay for election years, government actually tries to throw us a bone occasionally.)

[capitalistnihilist]

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OMGZ Teh gubberment is ebil........

Yeah, we didn't land on the moon either right?

[Kikuchiyo]

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OMGZ Teh gubberment is ebil........

Yeah, we didn't land on the moon either right?

nope. didnt you see the documentary?

reminds of of the movie "the long kiss goodnight" where the government was gonna attack the WTC and put known terrorists bodies in the area so they could start a war.

[Kaickul]

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59923762628848

Running time: 1 hour and 22 minutes

You'll want to sit through the whole thing. It puts Farenheit to shame in so many ways.

Yes, I'm paranoid now, and I can't fall asleep. But whatever. The more you know. I can't. . . explain it. Just watch it. It's about 9-11 and the government and science and all sorts of conspiracy shit.

I hate to be the person to disagree here, but Ive seen this video (and said the same thing on KI) and there are some MAJOR holes in the theories.

The HUGE one that I saw is with the whole *explosives were used to bring down the Trade Towers* idea is just... too far fetched. First off... check any demolition website and youll find this info. You do not simply walk into a building... place some explosives inside and then bring down a building. Demolition just doesnt work that way. The buildings you saw being imploded were going to fall anyway.

Reason being is, explosives are just the end result of demolition after workers have stripped that building clean of windows, outside support and weakened the main supports for the structure. By the time explosives are used on a building set to implode a small earthquake could bring it down, the explosives just determine how its going to fall.

Go back and look at the video... those puny dust spurts you saw are FAR from what would be needed to bring down a solid steel and concrete structure like the Trade Towers.

The possibility of weakening those towers ahead of time is also out of the question. Weakening a building ahead of time makes it completely unsafe to be in, and as such you not weaken the Trade Tower without someone noticing either the act or the result.

There was a Skyscraper built back in the 80s that is a prime example of what happens when a structure is not properly supported. It sways. As result people were getting motion sickness and also reported strange noises of creaking.

More evidence that there were not explosions in the sub structure can be found from example. Remember the first Trade Towers terrorist attempt? A van carrying enough explosives blew out three floors of the sub structure for the Trade Towers and it was far from just broken glass and fallen marble. The smoke alone made it seem the entire base of the buildings was on fire... there was no such evidence present on 9/11.

The plane that hit the Pentagon was stated as not being level with the building as this video is presuming. Evidence has already shown that the planes entry was steeper than first thought which accounts for why the plane did not go through the building.

Lastly before this post gets too big... come on folks. Are you smart? I think you are... wait I know you are. Im confident a majority of you here are smart people. Is our Government so smart to conjure up a conspiracy of this magnitude? Do you honestly give them that much credit to do this this deep of a plan that not a single bit of evidence other than what you see on this video would remain for us to pick through. Look at how deep this sort of theory is and think to yourself. In todays world of cameras, video, blogs and people who are generally quick to pick up on something that just isnt right... you are telling me not one person saw something odd to back this up and failed mention it?

[WishMaster3K]

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Good point about Demolition. That part seemed a bit far fetched, but at the very least, I was questioning the "terrorist" notions of the whole fiasco. However, my friend was talking to someone else about the other points brough upon in the movie:

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ikick_rocks
Apr 26, 2006 1:06:21 am
Your 9/11 thread was...
amazing
yet sad.

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Sparticus*
Apr 26, 2006 4:35:19 pm
I just wanted to get the info out.
And it really is sad, not only beause of how it was done but also to know that the gov't would goto such lenghts to get what they want.

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ikick_rocks
Apr 26, 2006 4:36:39 pm
I know.
I think about that everyday.
I had problems sleeping.
My parents "died" on 9/11.

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Sparticus*
Apr 26, 2006 4:38:35 pm
Why did you put it quotes?
Do you know they died or do you question what happened?

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ikick_rocks
Apr 26, 2006 4:45:14 pm
I always questioned what happened.
The "woman" who called me sounded nothing like my mother.
She even asked which one of her daughter's is this.

I'm my mother's only daughter.
I just took it like she was in a state of shock.
I always had my suspicions about it.
But I was only 13 at the time.
Who would listen to a 13 year old?
Plus the plane they were on was never found.

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Sparticus*
Apr 26, 2006 4:57:33 pm
I wish you could see my face right now...
My jaw is on the floor....
That's fucking insane. Insane.
I knew there was something weird about the missing flights and all those people who were supposedly on them.

Fucking insane...

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ikick_rocks
Apr 26, 2006 5:11:14 pm
I always knew too.
I tried talking to my aunt about it but she just brushed it off.
She was real depressed and ended up killing herself a week after they "died".
The bad part is we couldn't even have a funeral because there was no body(ies) to bury.
It was like they disappeared from the face of the earth.
After watching that last night has made me have even more doubts about 9/11.
I just feel in my heart that my parents aren't dead.
But there are alot of unanswered questions.
But I'm pretty damn sure the government knows the answers.
Will it be too late for me to contact the FBI?

About the pentagon, there was also a hole on the other side of the building correct? And how "Steep" was the entry if there were poles that were ripped from the adjacent highway?

And that still doesn't account for the "crash" in Pennsylvania. Say what you want about the movie (good points, again, about the Towers), but there are just so many questions raised about the entire day to just discount all of the acts on terrorism.

And I REALLY hate when people will just blindly assume that a governing body would not go to such great lengths to get something that they want. The simple fact that HomeLand security is now handling matters dealing with illegal immigration, sucessfully assisting business owners and the like, shows the far reaching effects of the downfall afer 9/11

They can fix an election right in front of our faces.

Twice.

Who's more naive? Me for questioning things or you for dismissing speculation?

[capitalistnihilist]

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Yes, I'm sure the media would have turned a blind eye to a mass government conspiracy on such a grand scale right?

Oh noes! Maybe the media was involved too!!!111!!!

Quick, grab your tinfoil hats!

[Kaickul]

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Yes, I'm sure the media would have turned a blind eye to a mass government conspiracy on such a grand scale right?

Oh noes! Maybe the media was involved too!!!111!!!

Quick, grab your tinfoil hats!

I agree...

If anything the Media was trashed by the Government and the public for not supporting the Government in many ways. The media was was actually raising these questions initially.


And WishMaster3K....

I was insulting the Government... not defending it. Dont confuse the two. I am saying our current administration doesnt have the brains to do this sort of thing with such precision that its executed flawlessly without anyone to witness wrong doings... that only happens in the movies. Does that mean Im saying our Government wouldnt try something and hide it from the public... of course not.

A point I want to make to you is that there is nothing wrong with what he is saying... but find your own truth. Go do some research and find out for yourself what other people are saying. Finding blogs, news reports, photos is easy... its all out there. Just go look for it before you jump on someones side without a bit of skepticism.

[WishMaster3K]

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Just because our figurehead is a complete moron. . . Keep in mind that under him is the Cabinet, and their advisors, and their advisors and so forth and so on.

I mean. . . they're a governing body, they can't be THAT stupid. Or maybe it'd be better if we thought that. I'm not sure, but yes, it is important that we go through and do our own research, I agree.

[DieselBoy09]

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I personally don't believe the towers were brought down by explosives, and I don't believe the plane that crashed in that field was fabricated either. I do however have questions about the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. There wasn't as much discussion about those killed in that attack as there was in the planes that hit the trade towers or the one that crashed in the field, its almost as if it didn't really happen. Personally, that's the one I'm skeptical about, not the two others.