This Administration sucks

[WishMaster3K]

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http://www.aclu.org/privacy/index.html

If it wasn't so awsome to live in America, I'd hate it. But hey, the government pays for college so uhm >.> no complaints here.

I wonder if they make an amendment that'll let them amend the Bill of rights. That'd be HILARIOUS. Someone get the PATRIOTS on the phone, they're being a little too obvious. . .

[Mog]

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More funny pics. Hope you like :D

[WishMaster3K]

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How about a few of these. comedy, fear and reflection.

[Omni]

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in every place to live in, there is always something that sucks. i think the u.s. is probably one of the places with the least amount of suckiness.

you dont know what it means to suck when the government can just make you disappear b/c you speak a certain language. or when the government canes you so you cant sit down for a month b/c you would scream in pain. or to live in fear b/c criminals have more power than your government does.

we really have it too good imo.


edit: wtf wishmaster isnt online? oh noes!

[Kagerou]

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poop.

Now I'm gonna wait for the FBI to raid my house.

[WishMaster3K]

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I'm not bitter about this next statement, for the record, I think being an African American in the USA has many advantages ^^

Race Card FTW!!!

lol seriously, America is an awsome country, Government pays for college, helps pays loans, and give you stuff if you fall under the income bracket, such as food, medical aid and so forth and so on.

In my ESL class, the students I teach are suprised when I tell them that I have over 20K in governmental Grants alone, not including loans. They don't even understand the concept of loans =O

also, America is one of the only countries that let's you spend money w/o having money, aka, Debt from credit cards.

I think the US is an awsome place to grow up and live, it's just that sometimes, the policies of this Administration seek to take away our small freedoms one by one, until eventually, we won't be able to say "Buck Fush" w/o getting supoeinaed(sp?)

[Moaku Hyena]

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n every place to live in, there is always something that sucks. i think the u.s. is probably one of the places with the least amount of suckiness.

you dont know what it means to suck when the government can just make you disappear b/c you speak a certain language. or when the government canes you so you cant sit down for a month b/c you would scream in pain. or to live in fear b/c criminals have more power than your government does.

we really have it too good imo.


edit: wtf wishmaster isnt online? oh noes!

Before you say that America has the least suckage...Read the PATRIOT II...which has passed and is in force. The government CAN make you simply disappear; look at what the PATRIOT II does.

Take a look at the ACLU Fact sheet. http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general...g20030214.html

Here is a surprising one--the PATRIOT II creates 15 new Death Penalties. And with the vagueness of the PATRIOT act... wouldn't this, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10454316/ be scary? Rather interesting that protesters are being labeled as "threats"... Can you link it to the PATRIOT II's provision on Death Penalties?

And now here's more things to irk the common American. Quoting from the ACT itself... "Diminishes corporate accountability under the pretext of fighting terrorism; specifically, by

* Granting immunity to businesses that provide information to the government in terrorism investigations, even if their actions are taken with disregard for their customers' privacy or other rights and show reckless disregard for the truth. Such immunity could provide an incentive for neighbor to spy on neighbor and pose problems similar to those inherent in Attorney General Ashcroft's "Operation TIPS." (Section 313)"

Wow. McCarthyism and more power to the business pigs.

"Undermines fundamental constitutional rights of Americans under overbroad definitions of "terrorism" and "terrorist organization" or under a terrorism pretext; specifically by

* Stripping even native-born Americans of all of the rights of United States citizenship if they provide support to unpopular organizations labeled as terrorist by our government, even if they support only the lawful activities of such organizations, allowing them to be indefinitely imprisoned in their own country as undocumented aliens. (Section 501) "

OH WAIT! What can you link THAT to? Hmm? HMM?!

"Diminishes personal privacy by removing checks on government power, specifically by

* Making it easier for the government to initiate surveillance and wiretapping of U.S. citizens under the authority of the shadowy, top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. (Sections 101, 102 and 107)
* Permitting the government, under certain circumstances, to bypass the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court altogether and conduct warrantless wiretaps and searches. (Sections 103 and 104) "

Hahaha, and let's not forget Carnivore, the new Internet Snoopy! Quoting Derek Jennings,

"As the recent tax-cut bill did for corporate interests, the PATRIOT Act uses the cover of recent terrorist tragedies to provide law enforcement and the intelligence community a laundry list of things for which they'd been asking for years but were denied by a wary Congress. In addition to the aforementioned provisions, the law also enables the FBI to aggressively expand the use of its controversial Internet snooping system, Carnivore. While touted by law enforcement officials as the cyber-equivalent to the old wiretap, in practice, Carnivore taps not just a suspect's e-mail, but everyone on the same Internet Service Provider (ISP). Since an ISP can have thousands of users, using Carnivore is like having the FBI tap the phone of everyone in your county because they think your neighbor across the street may be a foreign agent. And now, they don't even need a warrant to do so. ( http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2001-11-07/jennings.html )"

And let's not forget the separation of Church and State being crushed by the Administration, the corruption of senate and pocketing of tax money by lobbyist and legislators, the demand for nuclear removal of other countries while keeping our own, and John Ashcroft. =O
Now tell me, Omni-Ragnarok. Does America have the least suckage now?

[WishMaster3K]

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*looks up Constitution*

*Reads 1st Amendment*

Ok, honestly, the only way we can fix America is to do away with the two party system. It doesnt work, It hasn't worked, and it will never work. It has done nothing but divided and labeled Americans.

In general, Americans are afraid to use the power vested to us to do anything, because we, as a majority, are uneducated and unapathetic.

2004 was a great example in the system failing, and we will pay for the resulting aftermath for generations to come. The sad majority of americans can't even point ot Iraq and Afghanistan on a map, let alone the countries in Europe, and I sit here, suprised, that we don't want to take our powers of vote into our own hands.

Sad, really. . . I'm not sure anything can be done, aside from a catastrophic social reformation, equivalent to those seen during the Civil Rights movement. Americans take being American for granted.

[qaitakalnin]

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if you havent voted, you need to start...please vote, and vote based on who you think can be the best for your goals and what you want to them to do, never forget that you the voter are highering this individual to represent you and present things you want presented, if they arent doing a good job, vote for someone else. That is one of the best things about the country, every election is a chance to do something good and right. That being said, dont forget that politicians are only human, they are anserable to the voters, but they arent super human and should not be treated as such, they will make mistakes, they will try thier darndest not to, but nobody is perfect. So get out there americans and vote .....and if you guy or girl doesnt win at least you can always say "That isnt my guy messin up there"

[Moaku Hyena]

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if you havent voted, you need to start...please vote, and vote based on who you think can be the best for your goals and what you want to them to do, never forget that you the voter are highering this individual to represent you and present things you want presented, if they arent doing a good job, vote for someone else. That is one of the best things about the country, every election is a chance to do something good and right. That being said, dont forget that politicians are only human, they are anserable to the voters, but they arent super human and should not be treated as such, they will make mistakes, they will try thier darndest not to, but nobody is perfect. So get out there americans and vote .....and if you guy or girl doesnt win at least you can always say "That isnt my guy messin up there"

Oh, I do vote. Voting does indeed not gurantee that your ideal candidate will win the presidency...or that the votes will be counted fairly, take the 2000 Presidential Election. Remember the stuff about the voting scandals and recounts and crap? Oi.

People don't vote because they don't trust politicians. You can see why this is the case with so many political scandals in the past. People lie, cheat, and steal in office and to even get into office. The biggest scandal was the Boss Tweed scandal (Long time ago, early 1900s) and the thought that these guys want more money...

And we can definitely relate that to the first post and reading the article on c-net...it was made so that there was no choice and the bill had to be passed. That's instant emnity for Congress right there; if you are in Congress be sure to get a Raven set because you'll beed the -Emnity from that gear.

[WishMaster3K]

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if you are in Congress be sure to get a Raven set because you'll beed the -Emnity from that gear.

ROFL

My favorites are the ppl that complain, but don't vote. And I'd rather have low CHR so that my hate bleeds off faster ;.;

[Moaku Hyena]

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ROFL

My favorites are the ppl that complain, but don't vote. And I'd rather have low CHR so that my hate bleeds off faster ;.;

Hey, Sneak and Invisible works too. Said something nasty and got the media on your ass? They coming to your door? =D

Add this on the list of why people don't vote--We distrust politicians because we've got allegations that Bush was in Western Altepa on a Chocobo digging for weapons of mass destruction and that prevented us from farming/XPing there.

/slapped

[/pointlesspost]

As a rule of thumb, people... You complain, you gotta vote. 'Nuff said. I didn't sit by and moan about how Bush and his Administration was unfit; I voted. I even have the sticker---if I can find it.

[Jarre]

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England
Those wishing to use a television must apply for a license.
Committing suicide is classified as a capital crime.

You forgot one of teh many laws still in the law books at the Uk.

Soem of my favourites...

No cows may be driven down the roadway between 10 AM and 7 PM unless there is prior approval from the Commissioner of Police.

London Hackney Carriages (taxis/cabs) must carry a bale of hay and a sack of oats.

A bed may not be hung out of a window.

It is legal for a male to urinate in public, as long it is on the rear wheel of his motor vehicle and his right hand is on the vehicle.

It is illegal for a Member of Parliament to enter the House of Commons wearing a full suit of armour.

It is illegal for a woman to be topless in public except as a clerk in a tropical fish store.

Excluding Sundays, it is perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow.

It is illegal to be a drunk in possession of a cow.

Lol were still not as insane as the US!!!! or are we???????

[Omni]

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Before you say that America has the least suckage...Read the PATRIOT II...which has passed and is in force. The government CAN make you simply disappear; look at what the PATRIOT II does.

Take a look at the ACLU Fact sheet. http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general...g20030214.html

Here is a surprising one--the PATRIOT II creates 15 new Death Penalties. And with the vagueness of the PATRIOT act... wouldn't this, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10454316/ be scary? Rather interesting that protesters are being labeled as "threats"... Can you link it to the PATRIOT II's provision on Death Penalties?

And now here's more things to irk the common American. Quoting from the ACT itself... "Diminishes corporate accountability under the pretext of fighting terrorism; specifically, by

* Granting immunity to businesses that provide information to the government in terrorism investigations, even if their actions are taken with disregard for their customers' privacy or other rights and show reckless disregard for the truth. Such immunity could provide an incentive for neighbor to spy on neighbor and pose problems similar to those inherent in Attorney General Ashcroft's "Operation TIPS." (Section 313)"

Wow. McCarthyism and more power to the business pigs.

"Undermines fundamental constitutional rights of Americans under overbroad definitions of "terrorism" and "terrorist organization" or under a terrorism pretext; specifically by

* Stripping even native-born Americans of all of the rights of United States citizenship if they provide support to unpopular organizations labeled as terrorist by our government, even if they support only the lawful activities of such organizations, allowing them to be indefinitely imprisoned in their own country as undocumented aliens. (Section 501) "

OH WAIT! What can you link THAT to? Hmm? HMM?!

"Diminishes personal privacy by removing checks on government power, specifically by

* Making it easier for the government to initiate surveillance and wiretapping of U.S. citizens under the authority of the shadowy, top-secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. (Sections 101, 102 and 107)
* Permitting the government, under certain circumstances, to bypass the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court altogether and conduct warrantless wiretaps and searches. (Sections 103 and 104) "

Hahaha, and let's not forget Carnivore, the new Internet Snoopy! Quoting Derek Jennings,



And let's not forget the separation of Church and State being crushed by the Administration, the corruption of senate and pocketing of tax money by lobbyist and legislators, the demand for nuclear removal of other countries while keeping our own, and John Ashcroft. =O
Now tell me, Omni-Ragnarok. Does America have the least suckage now?

and given all that, the us still has it better than most other countries in this world. do you know what least means? ill explain it to you later but hold on for a second...

you obviously havent been out of the country much or must be one of those that are on the fuck america bandwagon. dont get me wrong, im not on any bandwagon. im taiwanese, i was born and raised in california. i have my gripes too about this country but to put it in perspective....

you say the gov. CAN make you disappear. yo say the gov. can demand nuclear removal from others while keep their own, you say all these things that in the u.s. might seem so dangerous or shocking but not even 20 years ago in taiwan, the government DOES make you disappear for speaking out against the kmt. even back when my parents were growing up, they chastise you and even punish you for speaking taiwanese. i know people older than me that were forced out of taiwan because they were the ones trying to give taiwanese people an identity. this isnt something CAN happen, it is something that happened on a regular basis.

again, you obviously misunderstood my post. which is understandable since you think something like what you posted is oh so grave and dangerous. its nothing new. however, for such things to happen you have to be a serious and important figure to have such horrible things happen to you when you live in this country. in taiwan, you could have merely just be known as a pro-itaiwan and if you are a high standing person, say lawyer, doctor, teacher, etc. they take you away in the morning from your home and you vanish. better yet, you can write a book about the character flaws of your OWN people and they put you in jail for 9 years. does that sort of thing happen here? no it doesnt. this sort of thing used to happen not even 25 years ago in taiwan.

how is church and state crushed? do you even know what you are saying? are they teaching creationism in school? are they forcing prayer time in jr high? did they over turn roe v. wade? just because you dont side with the religious beliefs of this president doesnt mean church and state is crushed. thats pretty over dramatic, get over it.

what about living in china? what about not being able to be on the computer you are on now because you are under 19? what about living in columbia or bolivia? where you can get shot on someones front lawn and no one does anything? what about thailand and how prostitution is supposed to be illegal but officials look the other way. what about all the countries that have legitimate votes over turned because the losing party isnt happy? (ie: the recent election in palastine with the losing party refusing to cooperate) what about the rampant voter fraud in other countries? what about what about? the list goes on and on.

THIS is what i mean when the US has the least amount (least does not mean none, it just means lesser than all others. i hate to explain this to you but id want you to be clear of what im saying ) of suckiness. this DOES NOT mean the US is free from shitty policies and corrupt officials. how the US has lesser suckiness is that all these basic rights are upheld. you take it for granted what we have here and complain about such issues when people in other countries dont even have half t he rights we do. get it right before you try to attack someone when your very own basis and understanding is so narrow and short sighted.

just to be sure, if you didnt bother to read and think about what ive said. ill sum it up for you so its easier for you to digest.

all that youve stated that 'can' happen, happens abroad all the time and has been happening for quite some time.

[Caspian]

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Just so everyone is clear. The whole "separation of church and state" never appeared in any official government documents until recently (the last 50 or so years). It was taken from a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a church in Mass. iirc. They sent him a cheese wheel in hopes of getting some favors later on. The statement in the letter was intended that the U.S. not declare an official religion. That, and at the time most of Europe was actually ruled from a little country called the Vatican. The Catholic church for the most part controlled the known world. Thats what Americans were afraid of, and thats what Jefferson was writing about.
Oh, also, most church going people that care about politcs have a problem with it are concerned b/c its being treated as a federal government matter. Nowhere was the federal government granted the power to do that sort of thing, its not their place, its the state's. Take the judge in Alabama that had the Ten Commandments in the lobby of the courthouse. Its not the federal governments place to tell him he can't have it, its the state's. The people of Alabama like it, in fact thats the platform he was elected on. If they vote and decide they don't want any religious references in their state, then thats their business, not the business of some people in black robes sitting on a bench in D.C.