Comic, Sci-Fi, and Super Hero Related Movies

[Ziero]

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Height alone shouldn't be what determines who plays Wonder Woman, she needs to have that kind of squared jawed, very defined features that make her stand out from the rest of the girly girl super heros out there. I think it would be best to stick with a no name actress, someone who fits the bill, and the roll, perfectly. A strong yet sexy chick isn't easy to find in Hollywood nowadays, most chicks are just way too dainty.

Also, I don't think Fox actually looks like that anymore.

[Durahansolo]

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Guys, I think y'all misunderstood my post. She "would have" been a decent choice, like 10-15 yrs ago.

I figured that was what you meant, and I thought the same exact thing about Catherine Zeta Jones and Sandra Bullock.

[TheGrandMom]

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Height alone shouldn't be what determines who plays Wonder Woman, she needs to have that kind of squared jawed, very defined features that make her stand out from the rest of the girly girl super heros out there. I think it would be best to stick with a no name actress, someone who fits the bill, and the roll, perfectly. A strong yet sexy chick isn't easy to find in Hollywood nowadays, most chicks are just way too dainty.

Also, I don't think Fox actually looks like that anymore.

No height alone shouldn't be what determines it but it is one of the main factors they should be looking at. I agree that a lesser known decent actress with an exotic but curvaceous look would be a great pick. Unfortunately they like to have big names because they feel it will pull more people in to the theatre. The way I see it, I would rather have a cast thats not as well known but gives their all to put on a great performance and eventually word of mouth turns the movie into a hit over a big name cast that doesn't really give that much of a shit and doesn't try as hard and ruins the freaking movie. I don't know, it seems like a simple thing to me but then again I'm not in that line of business. lol

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Theron's got the height and the look, but like all the actresses listed thus - here's the big problem:

Wonder Woman ain't twiggy, but she's no beefcake either.

There has to be a shred of athleticism to whoever takes the part and it has to show just a little. I know that infringes upon men's biases - because its ok for some skinny asshole to be Batman or Wolverine, but even they have to bulk up a little.

Lucy Lawless could have done it years ago, but would be abit like getting Ken Sorbo to play Thor now. I thought WB wasted an opportunity to move Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher into a Superman movie. Sure the ABC ended sucking, but its not like it was their fault. Its just kinda went downhill after Luthor wasn't a big bad anymore.

I would also say Katie Holmes would be the closest thing to Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman , but after Superman Returns I think we should be casting based off the actual character and not the previous actor anymore. Plus you'd have to make her eat real food, something Tom Cruise doesn't seem to allow her to do.

Free Katie Holmes!

Still, I like the idea of Zoe Saldana. She's cute, she's fit, a rising star and just tall enough. I know they couldn't have picked anyone better to fill the role of Uhura, that's for sure and like all the actors in Star Trek - she made that role her own.

Also, on the topic of Catwoman - Halle Barry wasn't what was wrong with that movie. What was wrong with that movie is that it wasn't really about Catwoman at all. She does not have the powers of a cat goddess from ancient Egypt. She's a thief. But noooo, they had her be something else in a Devil Wears Prada rip-off plot.

Catwoman's name is Selena Kyle and she steals things. She's not evil, just a bit of a clepto. She's actually rather Robin Hood about it, too, well, except she doesn't give to the poor. She just steals things people didn't really need in the first place.

[Durahansolo]

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Speaking of Wonder Woman, I read this on G4 a little while ago.

DC Comics Has Ruined Wonder Woman! – Deadline.com

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Speaking of Wonder Woman, I read this on G4 a little while ago.

DC Comics Has Ruined Wonder Woman! – Deadline.com

Sounds like the usual DC timeline chicanery to me. They've done a lot worse than this, such as when Superboy Prime did the Retcon Punch that brought Jason Todd back to life. The fanboys always nitpick about everything though, its why I don't visit comic sites.

I actually kinda dig the new look, but its not like Wonder Women hasn't had different costumes. Plus that costume would be much easier for any movie star to slip into.



She's actually been sporting a jacket every now and then for the last few years. Plus is not like they won't revert to the old costume, they always do.

[Ziero]

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Just some simple Transformer related news, spoiled if you don't wanna know about it:

spoiler

1) The twins *are* in the movie, both are the same car this time around, and both are mainly black in car mode. Only differences are the color of their trim/highlights (one green, one orange) and that one has some added features (spoiler etc).
2) There's a red ferrari rollin around the set with the rest of the 'bots, fan speculation is calling him Hot Rod but nothing been confirmed at all other then the fact he is indeed part of the team.
3) Bumblebee, Ratchet and Sideswipe have gotten new looks to their alt modes, BB got a bit sleeker designs and redone stripes while Ratchet has a much more toned down paint job, mainly gray with neon green trim and Sideswipe was made into a convertable
4) Jolt...the blue car who was in RotF for all of two scenes...is returning for TF3, hopefully he'll see a bit more screen time.
5) James Avery (aka Uncle Phil) confirmed he will be the voice of Silverbolt, the Autobot Arielbot leader. Most people assume he'll turn into a Predator Drone, but other then the fact we know he's in it, no one knows for sure.
6) The Stunticons...or some sort of decepticon team of cars...will be in the movie. Pics and videos of a bunch of Nascar/Rally car type vehicles loaded with guns could be seen driving around the set preparing for a chase scene in the city.
7) Optimus Prime has his Trailer! It's big, it's shiny and has the same design as his G1 trailer had.
8) And the new big, bad villain for this movie has been confirmed as being

spoiler

Shockwave

[Durahansolo]

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X-Men First Class news:

Aaron Johnson as a "Kick-Ass" Cyclops in X-Men: First Class?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I think the last thing the world needs is another X-Men movie. First two were good, its all downhill from there. Same thing happened with Spidy. First was good, second one was excellent. After that, total crap.

One thing these movies need to get away from is putting too many villains in them. If you're going to have so many villains, you need to avoid having to many A-list ones. That's what killed the 90s Batman movies. Catwoman is way too interesting to share time with The Penguin, the Riddler is not on Two-Face's level.

Poison Ivy is a bit more prominent than Mr. Freeze, but Freeze has the more compelling backstory even though they're both second-stringers. Ivy just wants to get her freak on, Freeze has a wife with a fatal illness with no cure, she's cyrogenically frozen til there a cure. Don't get me started on Bane, Shumaker fucked him up good.

Bane is not a flunky and he's not stupid. If anything, he's clever enough to find ways to manipulate other villains to do his dirty work without them realizing it. His cunning is up there with The Joker and Ra's Al Ghul - well, so long as Chuck Dixon was penning his stories, anyway.

X-men and Spiderman ended up going in too many directions with too many villains. X-men took the easy way out - just kill some people off. Spiderman tried to juggle the two A-list villains and a second-strigger like Sandman, to boot.

I like how Batman Begins and The Dark Knight have done it. Make some villains just part of the background. There's always going to be the mobsters, so make them a credible part of the world and not some riff-raff that are just cast aside. They're great lead-ins to whatever supervillain comes along.

Scarecrow is strictly second-stringer, too, but he was the link between the mob and Ra's and that worked well. Moroni was a great character to use for the second movie, too, he succeeded Salvatore from the first movie. With the situation the third movie hits at, who better to step up as a villain but The Penguin? The mob is weak after the number Batman and The Joker did on them, they need restructuring and Batman is wanted by the Police. That's a perfect situation for The Penguin.

[Ziero]

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Eh, while I do agree with the concept, most of the examples you gave weren't really all that great.

As "interesting" as Catwoman is, she's really not something that can be considered a full, movie-centric villain. Hell half the time she's not even evil. I don't see her as being able to carry the concept of being a "main threat" for an entire movie, she's not a schemer with grand plans of world domination or the city's destruction, she's a cat burglar. She's a very interesting character, but she's not really a feature film leading villain.

Though I agree with the whole Ivy/Freeze/Bane thing, but isn't Freeze's current backstory(of the frozen wife) originally from the Batman TAS stuff? Not really saying anything bad about it, but rather if it's true his current backstory originated from the cartoons, it just cements how awesome the animated series really was.

Though I totally agree with you on Bane. In fact I feel they should use the original concept of Bane in the third film, in a way almost exactly as you suggested. The Penguin steps in as a minor villain role who starts strengthening organized crime, and hires Bane to hunt the Batman. But through the course of the movie we find out that Bane was actually manipulating the Penguin and his resources while hunting The Batman for his own reasons. Throw in a few steroid-esque type drugs into the mix to reflect the concept of Venom and you'd have a pretty decent third film with a villain that could match the Joker in presence and threat level.

As for X-men and Spiderman, with X-men it wasn't the amount of villains used that messed up the films, it was how they were used. A team of heros should always fight a team of villains. It's what was great about the first one, two groups of super powered characters facing off against each other. The third one just had a horrible story right from the get go with some absolutely pointless deaths while at the same time ignoring actually favored villain possibilities for original characters. And with Spiderman, again it wasn't so much the number of villains, but the fact the studios pushed Venom on a director that hated Venom. Spiderman 3 should have more or less just been an origin story for Venom ending in a kind of cliffhanger setting up a fourth one. The Sandman and the "New Goblin" attacking spidey from all sides (both literally and figuratively) could've been used to give good reason to him using and needing the black suit, and killing the minor villain of Sandman could have been the catalyst that would cause Pete to abandon the suit entirely. Instead we got emo-man doing a dance number while Venom had a limp wrist and noticeable lisp, and you spent the entire time waiting for someone to call him a dumbass.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Eh, while I do agree with the concept, most of the examples you gave weren't really all that great.

As "interesting" as Catwoman is, she's really not something that can be considered a full, movie-centric villain. Hell half the time she's not even evil. I don't see her as being able to carry the concept of being a "main threat" for an entire movie, she's not a schemer with grand plans of world domination or the city's destruction, she's a cat burglar. She's a very interesting character, but she's not really a feature film leading villain.

Well, I didn't give examples for Catwoman, Two-Face and the like, partly because Two-Face was already dead in the current movie continuity. Catwoman wouldn't be a main villain. She's similar to the Riddler in that she's a caper sort of villain, except in a "Catch me of if you can" way rather than a "battle of wits" way.

I think its also too soon to bring in Catwoman, though. The deaths of both Rachel and Harvey will no doubt continue to weigh hard on Bruce for a bit. Gordon's also going to need to be a bigger part of the story now that he has to help maintain the ruse of Batman's "guilt."

Though I agree with the whole Ivy/Freeze/Bane thing, but isn't Freeze's current backstory(of the frozen wife) originally from the Batman TAS stuff? Not really saying anything bad about it, but rather if it's true his current backstory originated from the cartoons, it just cements how awesome the animated series really was.

Portrayals of Victor Fries' history vary, but the fact that his wife was the greatest thing that ever happened to him and her unfortunate illness are always emphasized.

Though I totally agree with you on Bane. In fact I feel they should use the original concept of Bane in the third film, in a way almost exactly as you suggested. The Penguin steps in as a minor villain role who starts strengthening organized crime, and hires Bane to hunt the Batman. But through the course of the movie we find out that Bane was actually manipulating the Penguin and his resources while hunting The Batman for his own reasons. Throw in a few steroid-esque type drugs into the mix to reflect the concept of Venom and you'd have a pretty decent third film with a villain that could match the Joker in presence and threat level.

I think they'd have to ditch Bane's comic book look, though. The luchador mask just doesn't have the same effect in live action that it does in the comics. They could play around with his background, but I think his origins are interesting as they are.

[Ziero]

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When I mentioned Catwoman, I was talking about how you said she was "too interesting" to share time with the Penguin. Mainly in that while I agreed with her being interesting, I felt she wouldn't have been able to carry a movie as the sole threat and villain. She was just kinda there, throwing wrenches in everyone's plans while the Penguin took the real villain role.

And a quick googling of his history does indeed confirm the whole "frozen wife" bit came about because of Batman: TAS, and is a great example of how good of a story that cartoon had. Though I had no idea the actual name Mr Freeze came about because of the campy 60s show. His original name was Mr Zero?

And I agree and kinda disagree with the mask/look part for Bane. Sure they can ditch the costume and instead with a suit most of the time and a simple black muscle shirt while he's fighting. But some kind of mask would be needed if he were to hunt and fight the Batman. He wouldn't be the first villain in the movie with one, and there's really no reason he shouldn't have it at some point. It's part of what makes him Bane.

[TheGrandMom]

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Just some simple Transformer related news, spoiled if you don't wanna know about it:

spoiler

1) The twins *are* in the movie, both are the same car this time around, and both are mainly black in car mode. Only differences are the color of their trim/highlights (one green, one orange) and that one has some added features (spoiler etc).
2) There's a red ferrari rollin around the set with the rest of the 'bots, fan speculation is calling him Hot Rod but nothing been confirmed at all other then the fact he is indeed part of the team.
3) Bumblebee, Ratchet and Sideswipe have gotten new looks to their alt modes, BB got a bit sleeker designs and redone stripes while Ratchet has a much more toned down paint job, mainly gray with neon green trim and Sideswipe was made into a convertable
4) Jolt...the blue car who was in RotF for all of two scenes...is returning for TF3, hopefully he'll see a bit more screen time.
5) James Avery (aka Uncle Phil) confirmed he will be the voice of Silverbolt, the Autobot Arielbot leader. Most people assume he'll turn into a Predator Drone, but other then the fact we know he's in it, no one knows for sure.
6) The Stunticons...or some sort of decepticon team of cars...will be in the movie. Pics and videos of a bunch of Nascar/Rally car type vehicles loaded with guns could be seen driving around the set preparing for a chase scene in the city.
7) Optimus Prime has his Trailer! It's big, it's shiny and has the same design as his G1 trailer had.
8) And the new big, bad villain for this movie has been confirmed as being

spoiler

Shockwave

They are shooting today in Milwaukee. Traffic downtown by the art museum is horrendous! My grandson begged me to take him down there when I got home. He wanted to see Optimus Prime and Bumblebee!

[Durahansolo]

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News - Edward Norton Booted From Movie for Not Being "Collaborative" - Movies, TV & Music - UsMagazine.com NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[Ziero]

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They are shooting today in Milwaukee. Traffic downtown by the art museum is horrendous! My grandson begged me to take him down there when I got home. He wanted to see Optimus Prime and Bumblebee!

I don't blame him, I would've loved to see some of that stuff myself! Closest I've ever come to seeing one of the Transformers "live" is when they had a few Topkicks hanging out by the theater when the first film premiered (thems be some BIG trucks) and every now and then I'll see a new Camaro cruising about...but they're never the right color so they don't really count. =(

Still though, being just a truck or not, getting to see the Optimus Prime Peterbuilt...hauling that massive G1 trailer around, that would be absolutely badass.