Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows discussion thread (MAJOR SPOILERS, DUH)

[BurningPanther]

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I rather like the way the "on the run" parts of the story were drawn out. I think the detail involved therein contributed to build up a seeming hopelessness in the trio's situation. You certainly wouldn't have gotten the impression they were screwed if they operated safely out of Grimmauld Place with the whole of the Order assisting them.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows discussion thread (MAJOR SPOILERS, DUH)

Yes. We saw a RAPID maturation of all the characters.

Voldemort transitioned from being some sort of evil diety though, he had more human characteristics in this book, and I suppose that's because he had to be killed off.

I like the plot devices she used. Making those loopholes so that Harry ended up surviving in the end was brilliant.

[BurningPanther]

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I tend to think Voldemort's humanity started showing through as early as Chamber of Secrets. Revealing that he was, at one time, a budding wizard, started to ground him, as well as all the facts revealed and exposition involving him in subsequent installments, in my opinion.

I like the plot devices she used. Making those loopholes so that Harry ended up surviving in the end was brilliant.

No kidding! Especially tying it all together as though Dumbledore had it all mapped out. Not only was that clever, but very gracefully done. Not once did it throw up the "bullshit flag" in my mind.

[WishMaster3K]

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Oh and the fact that they were destroying the Horucruxes right under Voldy's nose(slits) was genius, and his gradual fear showed more and more as the story progressed.

The final showdown is going to make an awesome scene in the Trilogy being made for the last book.

So there are 5 movies... and Book 6 might need 2 parts, and book 7 is going to need 3.

>_> Star Wars just got pwnd by little kids. JKR is hopefully rich, so she'll never open the rights up. I HATE Fanfictions.

[Feba]

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JKR is, I believe, the richest (over one billion US dollars) author ever.

The only female entertainer with more money than her is Oprah

...but then George Lucas is worth over three times that, so who knows.

[WishMaster3K]

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It doesn't matter. They're all richer than me. ; ;

Dumbledore for President!!

Speaking of which...

The Kings Cross section cleared up a lot of mysteries, but "it's all in your head."

Huh?

So was Harry Hallucinating, or was that a metaphor for what death is?

And funny that the Killing Curse only works on people afraid to die, lol..

[Caspian]

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It was in his head, but it was happening. Since he wasn't dead, Dumbledore met him in his head, is what I understood.

Voldemort seeming more human: This is really the most you see of him. Almost every other time you've seen him in this series, he's shown up at a prepared time where he felt like he had the upper hand. In this book you see him trying to think things out and using brute force to get what he wants.

Thoughts on Harry's powers. Not sure about parseltongue. He undoubtedy still has the perseverance that Voldemort had. He may not currently have the raw power that Voldemort had (I imagine that may come in time), but he respected the need for knowledge, and used it to win. He's obviously a gifted wizard, he went up against Death Eaters several times and came out victorious.

I guess one of the biggest reasons I want to see more HP books is that I'm just not ready for it to end. Felt the same way after reading LotR, but atleast I had the Silmarillion after that.

Have the last Clancy book to finish, then I'm looking for something else to read. Has anyone read the Golden Compass books? I've heard they're good. Supposed to be like the Potter books, only more adult.

[BurningPanther]

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Tolkein and The Silmarillion were exactly what I was thinking of when I posited that Rowling might be able to write further stories on the world she's created.

Has anyone considered that perhaps Parseltongue is just in Harry's blood? Consider, Harry was revealed to be a direct descendant of Ignotus Peverell, youngest brother of the wizard trio that created the Deathly Hallows. We learned earlier that that Voldemort, descendant of Slytherin, also hailed from the Gaunt family, the patriarch of whom claimed relation to one of the oldest wizarding families, while brandishing the stone, presumed created by the second Peverell brother.

Assuming Gaunt was right, and he is descended from the second Peverell brother, wouldn't that make Voldemort and Harry distant relatives? If that was the case, any odd or rare magical traits(such as Parseltongue) would not be so completely outside the realm of Harry's potential.

[Feba]

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Felt the same way after reading LotR, but atleast I had the Silmarillion after that.

If it makes you feel better, Rowling has confirmed that she plans to make an encyclopedia-like book that will explain the backstories of a lot of characters and such

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/19935372/

[Olorin401]

Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows discussion thread (MAJOR SPOILERS, DUH)

Tolkein and The Silmarillion were exactly what I was thinking of when I posited that Rowling might be able to write further stories on the world she's created.
Has anyone considered that perhaps Parseltongue is just in Harry's blood? Consider, Harry was revealed to be a direct descendant of Ignotus Peverell, youngest brother of the wizard trio that created the Deathly Hallows. We learned earlier that that Voldemort, descendant of Slytherin, also hailed from the Gaunt family, the patriarch of whom claimed relation to one of the oldest wizarding families, while brandishing the stone, presumed created by the second Peverell brother.
Assuming Gaunt was right, and he is descended from the second Peverell brother, wouldn't that make Voldemort and Harry distant relatives? If that was the case, any odd or rare magical traits(such as Parseltongue) would not be so completely outside the realm of Harry's potential.

Doesn't sound that unreasonable to me..

Though if this were true, then Harry's wizard lineage (his Father most of all) would probably have to exhibit the ability as well to pass it down.

[Feba]

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it does seem like a bit of a stretch, especially when it's mentioned in the novels multiple times that Voldemort's Blood is what gave Harry the ability.

[BurningPanther]

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I think of it as being sort of a latent or dormant trait being triggered the night Voldemort first tried to kill harry. The fact that they might have been related would explain why some of the shared abilities didn't fade when Voldemort's Horcrux was excised from Harry, or when he was finally killed.

[Caspian]

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You know panther, I think you're right. They both are supposed to be desendants of two different Peverell brothers. Just not sure if the Peverells were before or after Slytherin. Can't remember how long ago The heads of the houses created Hogwarts.

Can't remember what I posted on here, and haven't had time to go back and look, did anyone else notice that book 7 takes place in 1997? His parents died when he was 1, their grave markers said the died in 1981, he's 17, so its the 1997-1998 year of school. Thought that was odd that the last book ended the series in the same year that she actually released the first book.

[Mythos]

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She might have intended that, but really, I think it has more to do with the fact that she started writing the series in 1991 (Harry's first year at Hogwarts), so logically 7 years later would be 97.

[Feba]

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yes, there's a timeline/chronology over on Wikipedia if you search... but having tried to deal with it myself, it's somewhat of a mess, so don't trust it TOO much. Consider it more of a guideline than canon, trying to be more precise than it actually is, like Adam and Eve eating an apple.

Interestingly enough, the movies are probably set a decade after the books, given the flat panel the Dursley's have.

Although, JKR wasn't exactly accurate in it either... some dates are incorrect, like tuesdays that should be sundays, and I believe Dudley had a Playstation before the original was released...