Transformers Movie

[Vyuru]

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Just saw the Transformers movie, and I dunno.


First I should say spoilers ahead, ye have been warned!





I loved the special effects and the robots and everything, I thought they did an excellent job with those.

What I didn't like for the most part, was the humor. While I understand they seem to be making Sam's mother look like an overprotective mom, umm, Sam's Happy Time? While the name was funny, it just didn't seem to fit in. Same with Bumblebee "leaking lubricants" on the Sector 7 agents. That just smacks of the schoolyard potty mouth humor which I just... To put it mildly I rather dislike that kind of humor, it's not clever and it's not witty, it's hardly better than slapstick humor.

I also didn't really like the little spy robot (Frenzy?). For his role, he seemed far too noisy and excitable. He was fun to watch though, I'll give him that, but it just did not seem plausible that your little spy robot would be like that, at least while on the job. It seemed to me that they just wanted someone like Waspinator from Beast Wars for comic relief, which is fine, just not for your super stealthy spy robot ya know?

And then when he gets off the plane, you expect me to believe that he walks right through the spotlights, past all those guards? I could see if he had some kind of holographic projecter to give him the illusion of being human, and you could do some interesting stuff with it, but how he gets off the plane is just lame.

I don't think it was a bad movie, but I definately feel that there was a decent chunk of it that could have been done better, and some parts just felt like there wasn't much thought given to them at all.

And I thought Barricade got killed by Bumblebee? I thought the only Decepticons left at the end were Scorpinok, still in the desert, and Starscream, who blasted off into space presumably to gather more Decepticons.

Another thing I'm curious about, the Allspark. Why does it only seem to create Decepticons? And why did it fully restore Frenzy when he got near it, but does nothing for the wounded Autobots? Now, I didn't notice any Decepticon markings on the robots the Allspark created, but considering how they all tried to kill people I'm just kinda assuming they're with the Decepticons.

[Ziero]

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And I thought Barricade got killed by Bumblebee? I thought the only Decepticons left at the end were Scorpinok, still in the desert, and Starscream, who blasted off into space presumably to gather more Decepticons.

At the end of the fight, they showed Barricade woozey, but still going. He showed up again later when the cons were assembling and while chasing the Autobots on the highway. It's said his death, a fight with Prime, was cut from the film so he could be used again in the sequal. After the highway scene he's just not shown again, at all.

Another thing I'm curious about, the Allspark. Why does it only seem to create Decepticons? And why did it fully restore Frenzy when he got near it, but does nothing for the wounded Autobots? Now, I didn't notice any Decepticon markings on the robots the Allspark created, but considering how they all tried to kill people I'm just kinda assuming they're with the Decepticons.

In an interview with a producer, he stated that 'bots created directly from the Allspark were savage, primitive and wild. But when a bot is created the correct way using the Allspark's housing on Cybertron, you get the intelligent, sentient Transformers.

[Murphie]

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Plus if you consider that all of our technology was supposedly reverse engineered from Megatron, they would likely have a bit of bad in them anyway.

[Sneakykitty]

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I personaly loved the movie, and I thought the humor was great. Then again I am weird and still like a kid inside lol...

Also, I really liked the part ware Bumblebee put his "gas" or whatever you want to call, it all over that guy, he diserved it! Optimus Prime, and Bumblebee were my favorites, I didnt like anyone from the bad guys. One thing that did bother me though, they didnt really show enough of the Disepticons. You really barely saw them accept for Frenzy, wich was kind of funny, but still lol....

[Eohmer]

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[Cotners]

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So that's why optimus prime has no driver.

Edited because this no longer makes sence.

[Akashimo]

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Indeed why.

[Vyuru]

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At the end of the fight, they showed Barricade woozey, but still going. He showed up again later when the cons were assembling and while chasing the Autobots on the highway.

/slap self

Heh, that's kinda embarrasing. I know they showed him on the highway chase scene, but since they didn't do anything with him after that I just kinda forgot about it and assumed he was dead.

In an interview with a producer, he stated that 'bots created directly from the Allspark were savage, primitive and wild. But when a bot is created the correct way using the Allspark's housing on Cybertron, you get the intelligent, sentient Transformers.

Hmmm, interesting. My background with the Transformers is watched alot of I think it was the original as a kid, don't remember much, but I remember Beast Wars very well, so sorry if I ask a question already answered somewhere in the original series.

So, was Cybertron built around the Allspark or what? If it had it's own housing on Cybertron, it seems that someone had to have created the Transformers and that the Allspark wasn't exactly the source of all life on Cybertron like the movie made it sound like. Something had to have built the housing for the Allspark and if the Allspark's energy coming into contact with machines creates sentient lifeforms, there had to be technology on the planet and possibly another race there to begin with.

Just what are the origins of the Transformers?

[Sneakykitty]

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/slap self

Heh, that's kinda embarrasing. I know they showed him on the highway chase scene, but since they didn't do anything with him after that I just kinda forgot about it and assumed he was dead.



Hmmm, interesting. My background with the Transformers is watched alot of I think it was the original as a kid, don't remember much, but I remember Beast Wars very well, so sorry if I ask a question already answered somewhere in the original series.

So, was Cybertron built around the Allspark or what? If it had it's own housing on Cybertron, it seems that someone had to have created the Transformers and that the Allspark wasn't exactly the source of all life on Cybertron like the movie made it sound like. Something had to have built the housing for the Allspark and if the Allspark's energy coming into contact with machines creates sentient lifeforms, there had to be technology on the planet and possibly another race there to begin with.


Just what are the origins of the Transformers?

Maybe the next movie will be called "Transformers: Origins" or somthing that would be cool, give us more of a background to the transformers, I dont know just a crazy thought I had.

[BurningPanther]

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The denizens of Cybertron were created by the Quintessions, an older race of mechanical beings. The Quintessons gave sentience to more benign mahcines for service in every day life, and gave sentience to their weapons, for more autonomous warfighting. Eventually, these creations rebelled and drove the Quintessons away.

Those automatons created from machines designed to convenient living are the descendants of the Autobots(and later Maximals) we know, which also explains the Autobots' pacifistic nature. Those automatons created from military weaponry became the Decepticons(and later Predacons), likewise explaining the natural aggressiveness in their natures.

[Sneakykitty]

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The denizens of Cybertron were created by the Quintessions, an older race of mechanical beings. The Quintessons gave sentience to more benign mahcines for service in every day life, and gave sentience to their weapons, for more autonomous warfighting. Eventually, these creations rebelled and drove the Quintessons away.

Those automatons created from machines designed to convenient living are the descendants of the Autobots(and later Maximals) we know, which also explains the Autobots' pacifistic nature. Those automatons created from military weaponry became the Decepticons(and later Predacons), likewise explaining the natural aggressiveness in their natures.

Now that you think about it that does make lots of sense...(the last paragraph) I never really thought about it that way lol...thats pretty neet though thanks for that! :|

[Ziero]

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/slap self
Heh, that's kinda embarrasing. I know they showed him on the highway chase scene, but since they didn't do anything with him after that I just kinda forgot about it and assumed he was dead.
Hmmm, interesting. My background with the Transformers is watched alot of I think it was the original as a kid, don't remember much, but I remember Beast Wars very well, so sorry if I ask a question already answered somewhere in the original series.
So, was Cybertron built around the Allspark or what? If it had it's own housing on Cybertron, it seems that someone had to have created the Transformers and that the Allspark wasn't exactly the source of all life on Cybertron like the movie made it sound like. Something had to have built the housing for the Allspark and if the Allspark's energy coming into contact with machines creates sentient lifeforms, there had to be technology on the planet and possibly another race there to begin with.
Just what are the origins of the Transformers?

Well, generally speaking, just about every Transformers continuity has it's own origins for the TFs. One says they were built by the alien race, the Quintisessions, as a slave race but over time became sentient and rose against them. Another claims they were created by a 'God' as mechanical beings in his image, who then went into hibernation becoming Cyberton itself. In this movie though, they specifically say they don't know where the Allspark came from, who made it or even how it works. But it did bring and sustain life to Cybertron, and was worshiped and protected as such. I think they wanted to keep the Allspark as mysterious and wonderous as possible, for at least this movie.

[raidenn]

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That is a good question, 'Did the black robot die?'

[Ziero]

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That is a good question, 'Did the black robot die?'

If you mean Barricade, the cop car, rumor states yes and no. He was *supposed* to die on the bridge fighting Prime after the Bonecrusher fight but it's been rumored that the scene was cut so he could appear in the sequel. Which is interesting, and somewhat cool, as he, Starscream and Scorponok are the only survivors and Barricade was said to be loyal to Starscream.

Plus he's just a cool character. (though you wouldn't know from the movie >_>_

[Cotners]

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If you mean Barricade, the cop car, rumor states yes and no. He was *supposed* to die on the bridge fighting Prime after the Bonecrusher fight but it's been rumored that the scene was cut so he could appear in the sequel. Which is interesting, and somewhat cool, as he, Starscream and Scorponok are the only survivors and Barricade was said to be loyal to Starscream.

Plus he's just a cool character. (though you wouldn't know from the movie >_>_

Whoooosh.