Battlestar Galactica *spoilers within*

[BurningPanther]

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I'm curious to see if the models from the Resurrection hub start waking up back home instead.

As I understand it, the whole resurrection process has a limited range, which is why destroying a Resurrection ship(or hub, in this case), is so pivotal. If the Cylon homeworld is much further out than they currently are form Caprica, they definitely aren't in range to resurrect. Death is very much permanent for them.

Also, since all the Cylons are based on the memories of one very angry, suicidal teenage girl, I'm curious to see how Tigh and the others reconcile themselves with being the relatively normal ones.

Where'd you learn that?

[Murphie]

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By destroying the hub, there is no resurrection again, ever. So no one will be reappearing anywhere, Cylon Homeworld or elsewhere.

[Cometgreen]

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What I kinda hate is that we have absolutely nothing to go on for 6+ months. There's stuff that needs to be explained (the Opera House and the other mystical elements) but the major conflicts have been resolved: Earth has been found, and humans and Cylon have finally agreed that they must coexist. We can only guess that the final episodes deal with restoring Earth (or finding out what happened to it, and how Starbuck's resurrection is related to it) and possibly dealing with the other Cylon faction. But what significance is the fifth? Is there still some major journey, which Roslin must lead before kicking the bucket?

It is exciting to think of where they can go with it in the next 10 (12?) episodes, but it's also annoying having little to speculate while we wait.

As for the fifth, I really want it to be Gaeta, because I want his singing in Guess What's Coming to Dinner to be significant outside of that single episode. But who knows.

[Murphie]

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Well, there will be webpisodes over the summer, I believe. Not that that is really a real substitution, but it's something.

[KingOfZeal]

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Is it possible to be Gaeta though? I thought it was said that only 4 of the final five were in the fleet, and that's not exactly a fact that would be easy to change -- after the events on New Caprica, D'Anna would know everyone who was in the fleet.

[Phanex]

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but the major conflicts have been resolved: Earth has been found, and humans and Cylon have finally agreed that they must coexist.
As for the fifth, I really want it to be Gaeta, because I want his singing in Guess What's Coming to Dinner to be significant outside of that single episode. But who knows.

Well...Only Half the Cylons have agreed to coexist. There are still Dean Stockwell's and the other's to contend to. Unless they were all killed when the hub was destryoed.

As for the fifth..I'm not sure if it would be Gaeta, but I do think the fifith was there the whole time. She said the 5th one is not with the fleet just the 4, but!!! the hostages, President and Baltar, were NOT with the fleet they were on the Cylon SHip. AND she was really worried that Baltar might die when she saw him hurt on the table. So I'm guessing it's either Baltar or the President.

And who knows if the final five would use the Resurection Hub to "resurect". They came from earth, they might have their own lil "Resurection Hub" just for them there. And we all know the President is going to die soon, what better way to reveal it's her, than to have her to be resurected.....

[Kitalrez]

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Where'd you learn that?

Check the press releases for Caprica. Cylon AIs were based on the brainwaves of the Greystone daughter, whose father creates the Centurions to preserve her memories after she commits suicide. She's part of a monotheist cult like Baltar's, and kills herself after her boyfriend is executed by Caprican authorities for heresy. I'd imagine it's more complex than that in the storyline, but that's where they're going with the origins. Also, Caprica is sort of an on-again/off-again project. Right now the series is doing well enough that it's back to on-again. Hopefully, viewership is high enough for the end of this season that it stays that way.

[Caspian]

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Things I figure they'll answer next year, and there's a lot.
Who's the fifth (obviously they'll answer that one)
Whats with the Opera House visions and why is Roslin also having them? Figure they'll answer that one.
Where did Starbuck's viper come from and how did she get there, get back, not die? etc.
How did Baltar survive a nuclear blast just by ducking behind 6 on Caprica? (unless he's the fifth I have no clue how they'll explain that, if they'll explain it at all)
What's the current importance of Hera? Especially considering Chief's kid is a hybrid as well.(Probably will be explained when they explain the Opera House visions)

I figure the arcing storyline will deal with figuring out what happened to Earth, the importance the hybrid and finishing up with the hostile faction of Cylons (curious how Boomer is going to play out in that). I'm sure there will be some new curveballs throughout the season. I'm still hoping Tigh, Anders, and Chief stay good. Tory can DIAF, for all I care.

[Kitalrez]

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I think most of your answers probably hinge on the line from Razor: "All this has happened before, so shall it be again." (Or something close to that). If you look back at the series, parallels begin to form that are a little weird if they aren't connected. For instance:

1. The first hybrid was male, the ones in the basestars are female. There are two hybrids in the fleet, Nicholas and Hera.
2. Assume for a minute that Caprica 6's child is Tigh's or that Baltar is the 5th if it's Baltar's. That would make it a new Cylon model, perhaps the first of a new line of them. No one really explained where the final five came from, is it possible they're the first line and the 7 known models are their creations? The child cylon would give this line of thought continuity.
3. Kobol was irradiated and wouldn't support habitation. Possible nuclear war? With the geiger counters and final scene, it certainly looks like Earth is destroyed like that. We also don't know what era Earth is in. You can't really tell from the buildings, other than they're stone in parts. Is it possible that there are other humans moving around out there that have escaped a technologically advanced Earth?
4. People have already pointed out that there are 12 models of cylon and there were 12 lords of Kobol. Now, the legend they spin on Kobol is that one lord wanted to become higher than the others and this lead to the destruction of Kobol. Now, assuming that "Zoe-R" from the Caprica notes is the first Cylon, and that all cylon AIs are based on her memories, it's interesting that there are 12 Cylon models. Zoe was a monotheist, which is tatamount to high treason in the BSG world. What if instead of looking at the 12 models as machines, we instead look at them as archetypes. What does each one so far represent? Could they in fact be multiple personalities? What if the final Cylon is the one that contains the "true" personality of Zoe, the one that's supposed to be dominant? What if that personality has become convinced that it is god or at least higher than the others and has started directing them to achieve it's ends, peaceful or not?

All that has happened before, will come to pass again.

[Caspian]

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We also don't know what era Earth is in. You can't really tell from the buildings, other than they're stone in parts. Is it possible that there are other humans moving around out there that have escaped a technologically advanced Earth?

I'll have to go back and watch it again to be sure, but when it looks farther off, the buildings look as if they're several stories tall and when it showed some of the closer ruins they looked like they were rebar supported concrete. I'll have to double check, but the impression I got was that they were 20th-21st century buildings.

[Phanex]

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I always took the phrase about it happened before, etc. etc. was that they might tie this BSG with the origanl version.

I don't remeber exactly what happend at the end of the origanl, but I know they found Earth's Moon, at one point. But if they did find earth, repopulate it and after a few generations, they might restart a cycle. So this BSG and population might be their grand x 100000000000, childeren. Meh just a thought.

why is Roslin also having them? (the dreams/visions)

Well other than her being the 5th, it might be possible cause they used Hera's blood to help cure her way back in season 1 or 2. So she might just be connected with them that way.

Another thing to look at is that nearly all the of the final five have had childern. IF i remeber correctly didn't 6 once said they can't reproduce without humans. Yet the final five are new models and produced childern.
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I'll have to go back and watch it again to be sure, but when it looks farther off, the buildings look as if they're several stories tall and when it showed some of the closer ruins they looked like they were rebar supported concrete. I'll have to double check, but the impression I got was that they were 20th-21st century buildings.

They look like the arch type from the Book at the beginng that Lee was looking at when starbuck walked in.

[TheGrandMom]

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The thought of this being the last season makes me depressed. This is absolutely quality entertainment and will be missed.

My generation grew up on the old Battlestar so when we heard this was coming out we groaned. So many remakes.... but this isn't the old Battlestar at all. I don't look at it like a remake of anything but a stand alone program. There just isn't a way to compare them. Television that we watch now just wouldn't have been acceptable back in the days of the original. Though the touches in the show that harken back to the old make me smile.

I have convinced many naysayers to watch the show and now they are like rabid dogs. LOL Even people that aren't into scifi shows have started to watch and can't wait to see what happens next. I can't wait to see what happens in the rest of the season but I dread it at the same time too. It's like enjoying the time you have left with a dying loved one.

[Caspian]

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My dad was the originally the same way. Starbuck was a girl, they cylons were normal looking people, etc. I started watching it pretty much from the get go and he finally got into it. Now he and my mom watch it every week and love it. Its such a perfectly done show. Probably my favorite on television.

Phanex, I think you're right about 6 saying they could only reproduce with humans, seems like that was either in the mini-series or way back in season 1. I thought Chief was the only one of the 4 to have a kid. Did Tigh ever have a kid? I know Anders and Tory haven't.

EDIT: been thinking about the ending some more. Yeah, it sucks that apparently all the descendants of the 13th tribe are gone, but they have a perfectly good planet capable of supporting life and the hostile Cylon faction has no clue where it is. Things could be a lot worse (as I'm sure they will be near the beginning of the second half)

[Phanex]

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Yeah Tigh knoced up the 6 they are holding in jail. At the very end of the last episode, I think she's the one who walked up behind him.

So only 1/2 of the 4 have produced kids. 1 with a human, another with a cyclon. Hmm....

[Caspian]

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Yeah Tigh knoced up the 6 they are holding in jail. At the very end of the last episode, I think she's the one who walked up behind him.

So only 1/2 of the 4 have produced kids. 1 with a human, another with a cyclon. Hmm....

oh, duh, don't know how I forgot that. Yeah, that is weird.