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    Crappy performance with 9800 Pro

    I just got my new Radeon 9800 Pro and to my surprise it runs the game even more poorly than my old Geforce 3 Titanium 200, plus I get the annoying graphics glitches that probably came with the newest FFXI patch.

    I'm using the newest 3.10 drivers. Haven't tried the others yet, but other people who have the same problem haven't been able to fix it by using older drivers.

    I then tried running the second benchmark program and I got less points than with my old card. With GF3Ti200 I got 2200-2300, now I got 2170. What the hell is up with that?

    Computer specs:
    1ghz AMD Thunderbird @1.1ghz
    512mb SDRAM
    MSI K7Turbo

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    Tags: 9800, crappy, performance, pro
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    9800 PRO

    SOrry to hear that you are having such a bad time with yrou card.....the game was built to run on GEFORCE FX cards...i use the FX5600 256 MB card.....1.5 gig Athlon 512 DDR.....i scored over 4700 on the benchmark.......really think you would do better if this game if you ran a FX card......just my opinion....
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    • #3
      Yes the game was optimized for NVIDIAs cards, but a 9800 Pro is a very powerful card should be way more than enough for it.

      I just noticed an interesting thing. Those scores I posted were from the low resolution bench. I just tried high res and I got almost exactly the same score as on low. I think I got 2150. I can't remember my high res results with my old card, but I think it was somewhere around 1500.

      I also tried running War Craft 3 on all settings full to see if I had any slow downs there. The game ran smoothly, but it worked pretty well with my old card too, so I don't know if I actually have reduced performance in other games.

      Edit: I noticed more odd stuff. I tried playing with 1280x1024 overlay resolution and 2048x2048 as background resolution and my FPS didn't drop at all. So my new card didn't get rid of the low FPS, but it gave me a damn good looking game. I'd prefer a smooth ride over a good looking, but choppy one, though.

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      • #4
        It has to be something with your drivers, I also run the game on a Radeon 9800pro and the game is flawless. No slow downs, no graphic glitches at all. I'd recommend reinstalling your drivers and make sure you have the newest version of DirectX.
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        • #5
          catalyst 3 version 10 came out already? i thought they were still on 9, and close to releasing catalyst 4...

          dude, the nvidia drivers have this gay little cheat on them that automatically reduces quality on 3d benchmarks based on the same thing as the ffxi one... besides, you are lucky to get even 2000 with that old amd... it's only worth a p3 at 1.4 if you are even that lucky....

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          • #6
            Uhh, your graphics card is just way too powerful for your system. When you have an old 1 ghz processor with PC133 memory, you cannot throw in a top-of-the-line component and expect to get better, or even equal, results. The Radeon 9800 is just way too advanced for your system. I doubt the K7Turbo could handle it either.

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            • #7
              I have the 9800 XT (only about 5-10% better than pro) and I run with everything on, AA to 6x and AF to 16x with a resolution of 1280x1024 and a BG resolution of 1600x1600 and it works fine for me.

              Make SURE you have updated your motherboard drivers! This is a big cause of video card performance drops. Also make sure drivers for your older video card are uninstalled and deleted from your computer and form your registry.
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                Yes I was very aware of the fact that the rest of my system will become a bottleneck, but I didn't expect it to become worse. Anyway, I was supposed to upgrade the rest of my PC anyway, just haven't got that far yet.

                Oh and the K7T Turbo seems to "handle" the card well. The only problem is that the mobo only supports 4x AGP, which limits the performance of the card.

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                • #9
                  Radeon 9800 is powerful!

                  I have a radeon 9800 pro and i scooped up 5200+ on the benchmark. The problem will be that your motherboard does not support agp 8-times, this will prevent the ati from sending as much garphics info as it would like and will have a negative effect on the perfomance.
                  Hope that helps dude
                  PC SPEC:
                  P4 2.6GHZ @ 800MHZ FSB
                  512MB DRR 400 DUAL CHANNEL (800MHZ)
                  ATI RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB
                  80GIG HARDRIVE 7200RPM
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Omena
                    Yes I was very aware of the fact that the rest of my system will become a bottleneck, but I didn't expect it to become worse. Anyway, I was supposed to upgrade the rest of my PC anyway, just haven't got that far yet.

                    Oh and the K7T Turbo seems to "handle" the card well. The only problem is that the mobo only supports 4x AGP, which limits the performance of the card.
                    the difference between 4x and 8x would be negligible (sp?) with that setup as the card is waiting for the cpu anyways. additional bandwidth to the card would not matter. i only have a 4x mobo and 8x card and it runs pretty good. theres little if any difference between 4x agp and 8x other than professional applications... some games might see a SMALL difference in performance but its nothing really large. even on a high end setup
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                    • #11
                      Your problem is probably from switching from a geforce to an ati. Just after the game came out I upgraded from a gf2 to a 9800 pro. Just a few seconds after I would log in, I would get booted to the desktop. After messing with it for a bit I found out I had some corrupted files. So I had to reinstall FFXI and everything worked fine after that. So you might want to try reinstalling.
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