aerobahn, i need help... again

[Doppelganger]

since i know you have way too many pm's, i though this was a good way to get an answer from you.

as you know, i have:
p4 @ 2.53
512 rd 800mh ram
ti 4200 w/ 64mb ddr
250W power source
4 pci slots, wireless ethernet, soundcard,usb2, firewire
dell 8200 case (same size as 8250-8300, but it uses 250W supply)

could a 9700pro run here without a power source upgrade, or will a 9600pro run here? i want to upgrade ram and video card, but i don't want to mess with the power supply cuz i don't know if dell used standard measurements for the case.

[InuTrunks]

Need more info then that. How many hdd's? How many CD-Roms? DVD ROM? ect ect. Also, dell uses funky powersupplys in their cases I'd think you';d have to find one modded to fit their case.


Need any other help, message me on AIM: TrunksAnime00

[Doppelganger]

one 80 gig maxtor 7200rpm disk
one 16x dvd rom drive
one 4x4x12 dvd+rw+r

standard dell equipment they still sell, even though my comp is a year old.

aerobahn, im still waiting.....

[replica]

unlike the 95 and 9700 cards, the 9600 doesn't hook up to a power supply.. you'd be fine with a 9600 pro if you want to go that route

[aerobahn]

Im here

Ok im pretty sure dell uses standard ATX.

a 400watt allied PSU cost 30 buck
new case? 30 to 250$

as for all that suff...even though a 9600pro does not have a molex connector it still can breath easy with a 350 watt

the 9800 is recommened to be used with atleast a 350 watt PSU
so the 9700 is no different...

[Doppelganger]

Dimensions (H x W x D): 16.7" x 7.13" x 17.6"
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Output Wattage: 250 Watts

Input Voltage (auto-sensing): 90 to 135V at 50/60 Hz; or 180 to 265 V at 50/60 Hz

Heat Dissipation: 853 BTU/hour (fully loaded computer without monitor)

Backup Battery: 3.0 V CR2032 coin cell

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is that atx? im pretty sure that is an atx, but it seems a bit small. power sources are easy, or hard to replace?

[aerobahn]

nope changing psu's is a breeze. It like legos just stick em on!

Well that could either be ATX or micro ATX. I you could find out what motherboard you have that would be great.

[Fire]

I dunno, my psu sucked getting in, damn comp has like no extra room to move shit in and out of. Guess its not hard though if u buy a new case.

[Doppelganger]

it's a 850/E mother board. it says mini-tower for case.
here is the specs:

System
Manufacturer : Dell Computer Corporation
Model : Dimension 8200
Serial Number : 7JRRX11

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Dell Computer Corporation
Type : Mini Tower
Can be locked : No
Serial Number : 7JRRX11
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Dell Computer Corporation
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : Dimension 8200

On-board Devices

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : ECC
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 2GB
Bank 1 - RIMM1 : RIMM RAMBUS RDRAM 256MB/16 @ 400Mt/s
Bank 2 - RIMM2 : RIMM RAMBUS RDRAM 256MB/16 @ 400Mt/s
Bank 3 - RIMM3 : Empty
Bank 4 - RIMM4 : Empty

Chipset 1
Model : Dell Computer Corp 82850/E Host-Hub Interface Bridge Device (A3-step)
Bus(es) : X-Bus AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 133MHz (532MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 133MHz / 2x 532MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 8 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 1.00
Number of Ports : 1
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 1/1x

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 256MB RDRAM 8/7CL
Bank 1 : 256MB RDRAM 8/7CL
Channels : 2
Speed : 2x 399MHz (798MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 3/1x
Width : 16-bit
Refresh Rate : 1.95µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : Samsung MR16R 1628AF0-CM8 25A70D08 256MB/8 (256Mx16) RDRAM RIMM PC800-40 (CL2-2 up to 411MHz)
Memory Module 2 : Samsung MR16R 1628AF0-CM8 25A50D08 256MB/8 (256Mx16) RDRAM RIMM PC800-40 (CL2-2 up to 411MHz)

Cooling Device(s)
Fan : OK

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 4x
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 128MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.20
Number of Bridges : 2
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 2 : PCI (1x PCIClk)

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82801BA LPC Interface (ICH2 B4 step)
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Random Number Generator Enabled : No
Random Number Generator Support : Yes
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : SMSC LPC v1
Version : 67.01
Number of Enabled Devices : 4


seems my ram is running slow at 798, 2 short of default. im guessing it can go up to 822 with no noticable extra heat. should i speed it up, or just keep it stable at what it is?

[aerobahn]

Would you be willing to buy a new case???

[Doppelganger]

if i need to buy a new case, i won't upgrade, and ill get a new comp nnext year. prescott+r420 will own.

[aerobahn]

Originally posted by Doppelganger
if i need to buy a new case, i won't upgrade, and ill get a new comp nnext year. prescott+r420 will own.

This is true...Unless 64 bit apps take off then You gotta wait till intels CPU after prescott,