FFXIV BETA Test Application has begun

[Mhurron]

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Uhhhwha?

So, they're porting it from neutral to both the PS3 and PC?

No, think of it like this, you could do it either:

API1 that the PS3 is optimized for but you'll have to do very sub-optimal work on Windows
API2 that is a Windows function that you have to write your own on the PS3
API3 that is optimized for neither but runs the same on both

The neutral method, and the one that takes the least development effort is use API3.

[Balfree]

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I firmly believe they said this was for the PC originally.
But nowadays does that even matter? I'm pretty sure a Ps3 can do anything the pc can in terms of gaming.

[Pwnagraphic]

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It is not for the PS3, they said the one for PS3 would come later.

Sounds right, for a port to be tested AFTER.

Kai and one other told me it was the PS3 app too so I filled it out.. but I sent an e-mail asking if that'll be a problem in the future. Doesn't make sense to put the choice of which system you'll use if it was a PC only app. But who am I to question SE?? And the first time I heard of SE making a new MMO, they said it would be PS3, PC exclusive. Soo.. where did you hear it was a port from the PC? Doesn't make sense for SE to do that..

They are both primary platforms from the beginning for XIV

That's what I have been reading since it was "Rapture"

In the case of FFXIV it is being made for PC and PS3 in mind, but really you could say its being made for PC, and ported to PS3 (and maybe 360 later)

Once again.. this makes more sense lol.

[Balfree]

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It does make sense.

They asked questions on there that have absolutely nothing to do with the beta application, they're just gathering valuable information. They know every sucker and their mum will submit an application, might as well get the most info out of them.

About it being a PC -> PS3 port, I'm not about to dig through all the information just to find where I read it, but I know I did. Maybe I'm imagining things in the end. Does it matter though? It makes absolutely no difference if its a PC->Ps3 port or not. As long as its not a PS3->PC port, all's good.

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Soo.. where did you hear it was a port from the PC? Doesn't make sense for SE to do that..

In the case of FFXIV it is being made for PC and PS3 in mind, but really you could say its being made for PC, and ported to PS3 (and maybe 360 later)

Once again.. this makes more sense lol.

I'm confused at what your doubts are pwn. You agree with something then you disagree with it right away.. on the same post too.

[Mhurron]

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PC was not a primary platform for FFXI, it was made for PS2, then ported to PC

Guess again.
Final Fantasy XI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'The game was the first developed under Square's new philosophy to develop for "all platforms and media"'

"The game was developed and ran on the Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti GPU" - PS2 doesn't use an nvidia video adapter

The PC was a primary platform.

Oh and "is why the PC version sucks so hard in terms of system resource use" - well I'll just leave this here -

API1 that the PS3 is optimized for but you'll have to do very sub-optimal work on Windows
API2 that is a Windows function that you have to write your own on the PS3
API3 that is optimized for neither but runs the same on both

The neutral method, and the one that takes the least development effort is use API3.

[Pwnagraphic]

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I'm confused at what your doubts are pwn. You agree with something then you disagree with it right away.. on the same post too.

I totally read that wrong.. My bad bro. I think it was made with PC and PS3 in mind from the get go. Hope that clears it up..

The PC was a primary platform

Wait.. When I first read about FFXI.. it was in Gamepro Magazine. It was a PS2 exclusive till a few months later it was being ported to PC. At least that was what I read. Misinformation can happen anytime, anywhere..

[Mhurron]

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When I first read about FFXI.. it was in Gamepro Magazine. It was a PS2 exclusive till a few months later it was being ported to PC. At least that was what I read. Misinformation can happen anytime, anywhere..

Final Fantasy XI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"It was originally announced that there would be a simultaneous release on the PlayStation 2 and PC as well as concurrent Japanese and American release, but this was later changed"

[Balfree]

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FF14 LOOKS PURDY!

[Tickmeoff]

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Doesn't make sense to put the choice of which system you'll use if it was a PC only app.

I think it was more of a "when FFXIV is released which platform would you like to play it on?," not a question of which you'd like to beta test it on. This is just a beta test, there is no commitment to playing the PC version when the game goes retail so plenty of people who plan to play on PS3 might still apply for the PC beta test just to see what the game is like.

[pixiehawk]

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I think it was more of a "when FFXIV is released which platform would you like to play it on?," not a question of which you'd like to beta test it on. This is just a beta test, there is no commitment to playing the PC version when the game goes retail so plenty of people who plan to play on PS3 might still apply for the PC beta test just to see what the game is like.

They will need testers for both PC & PS3, they were asking which you could test it on. They are going to test it on the PC first, then get more testers, and more and eventually test it on the PS3 as well. They said that in an interview somewhere (and no, I don't remember where, that was a month or two ago, and I don't remember) They are not going to have people reapply, that's why they said multiple applications would be trashed. They are going to hold only the applications.... Hell, they might be putting them into catagories right now - this applicant is in group 1 (probably the people with the "best" machines), this one is in group 3 (which will have both PC & PS3), this applicant is in group 2 (PC only still), ect.

At least that is the way I read it. Hence me putting both PC and PS3 on my application.

[Balfree]

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if its just for PC, then why in the hell does the last question ask you what system you would like it for?

regardless of whatever that is for (probably just gathering information on preference), the fine print clearly states its for Windows version only:

FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Test Application Site

The Fine Print

* The current tester recruitment is for the Windows version of the FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Test only. Details regarding recruitment for the PlayStation 3 version will be released at a later date. * The game to be tested is under development, and may differ significantly from the commercial release. * Applicants may apply only once. Repeat submissions from an individual will invalidate all of that individual’s applications. * Inquiries regarding the selection process and/or its results will not be answered. * For more details, see the FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Test Application FAQ here. * Application contents cannot be changed once submitted.

bump for glory

[Kailea]

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Guess again.
Final Fantasy XI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'The game was the first developed under Square's new philosophy to develop for "all platforms and media"'

"The game was developed and ran on the Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti GPU" - PS2 doesn't use an nvidia video adapter

The PC was a primary platform.

Oh and "is why the PC version sucks so hard in terms of system resource use" - well I'll just leave this here -

does not matter what the hell it was developed on, it was released for PS2 first, and then ported to PC later, bad code and all.

[Mhurron]

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does not matter what the hell it was developed on, it was released for PS2 first, and then ported to PC later, bad code and all.

Ya, because 6 months is plenty of time to port a major application to a completely different platform. It was developed and ran on the Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti GPU not just written in SE's IDE of choice and then run on the PS2 development box. It ran, during development, on Windows. Intelligent people call this Windows development. It was also to have a simultaneous release on PS2 and Windows. It was developed for the PC and the PS2 at the same time.

You can go on any way you want to make yourself fell better about things, but you're wrong.

[Kailea]

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Ya, because 6 months is plenty of time to port a major application to a completely different platform. It was developed and ran on the Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti GPU not just written in SE's IDE of choice and then run on the PS2 development box. It ran, during development, on Windows. Intelligent people call this Windows development. It was also to have a simultaneous release on PS2 and Windows. It was developed for the PC and the PS2 at the same time.

You can go on any way you want to make yourself fell better about things, but you're wrong.

If thats really true, then its sad that they developed it on an Nvida, and that was the cards that has so much trouble for a while with the game, I honestly thought it was a real port, since it was released on PS2 first, then PC later, and since the game did not use the PC hardware like it should have, I figured they just did a really bad job of porting it, like they did FFVII for PC.

[Tickmeoff]

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like they did FFVII for PC.

Huh? The PC version was superior in every way unless you had a shit video card. The same with the FFVIII PC version.