[dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

[Yygdrasil]

[dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

[dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments
*This content is currently in development and may differ in the release version*


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Phantom Roll Effect Changes
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Lucky | Unlucky

Healer's Roll
Increases the amount of MP recovered while healing -> Enhances potency of "Cure" effect received

Roll / Effect Value
1: +3%
2: +4%
3: +12%
4: +5%
5: +6%
6: +7%
7: +1%
8: +8%
9: +9%
10: +10%
11: +16%
Bust: -4%
Bonus: +4%

Gallant's Roll
Grants a damage reflection effect -> Reduces damage taken %

Roll / Effect Value
1: -6%
2: -8%
3: -24%
4: -9%
5: -11%
6: -12%
7: -3%
8: -15%
9: -17%
10: -18%
11: -30%
Bust: +5%
Bonus: -5%

Drachen Roll
Enhances magic attack and magic accuracy -> Enhances pet accuracy
This roll is now learnable at level 23 instead of level 52

Roll / Effect Value
1: +10
2: +13
3: +15
4: +40
5: +18
6: +20
7: +25
8: +5
9: +28
10: +30
11: +50
Bust: -15
Bonus: +15

Puppet's Roll
Enhances pet accuracy -> Enhances magic attack and magic accuracy
This roll is now learnable at level 52 instead of level 23.

Roll / Effect Value
1: +4
2: +5
3: +18
4: +7
5: +9
6: +10
7: +2
8: +11
9: +13
10: +15
11: +22
Bust: -8
Bonus: +8

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Phantom Roll Effect Adjustments
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Lucky | Unlucky

Warlock's Roll
(Enhances magic accuracy)

Roll / Current Effect Value / New Effect Value
1: +2 / +2
2: +3 / +3
3: +4 / +4
4: +10 / +12
5: +4 / +5
6: +5 / +6
7: +6 / +7
8: +1 / +1
9: +7 / +8
10: +7 / +9
11: +12 / +15
Bust: -4 / -5
Bonus: +4 / +5

Beast Roll
(Enhances pet attacks)

Roll / Current Effect Value / New Effect Value
1: +12 / +16
2: +15 / +20
3: +18 / +24
4: +48 / +64
5: +21 / +28
6: +24 / +32
7: +30 / +40
8: +6 / +8
9: +33 / +44
10: +36 / +48
11: +60 / +80
Bust: -20 / -25
Bonus: +20 / +25

Choral Roll
(Decreases spell interruption rate)

Roll / Current Effect Value / New Effect Value
1: -11 / -13
2: -43 / -55
3: -14 / -17
4: -16 / -20
5: -19 / -25
6: -5 / -8
7: -22 / -30
8: -27 / -35
9: -30 / -40
10: -32 / -45
11: -54 / -65
Bust: +20 / +25
Bonus: -20 / -25

Dancer's Roll
(Grants a Regen effect)

Roll / Current Effect Value / New Effect Value
1: +3 / +3
2: +4 / +4
3: +11 / +12
4: +4 / +5
5: +5 / +6
6: +6 / +7
7: +1 / +1
8: +7 / +8
9: +8 / +9
10: +8 / +10
11: +14 / +16
Bust: -3 / -4
Bonus: +3 / +4

[cidbahamut]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

Grumble grumble healer's roll grumble grumble.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

So basically, this is like a THF or RNG "update."

Take the most marginal or useless things COR had and just make them slightly less so, but not really any more useful than before.

[Janay]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

Why, oh why, must they continue to mess with my most loved job?

[Yygdrasil]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

What I like is that Gallant's Roll isn't just PHYSICAL DAMAGE reduction. In fact... it doesn't specify anything at all. 30% Over-all DR on an 11? Yes Please!

[cidbahamut]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

It's a phalanx effect, not PDT or MDT.

[Takelli]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

-In before no rdm update.-

<.<

[Icemage]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

So basically, this is like a THF or RNG "update."

Take the most marginal or useless things COR had and just make them slightly less so, but not really any more useful than before.

I wouldn't even say that. On the whole, these changes mostly suck. Increased cure potency? Who cares? Oh be still my beating heart, -4 to +12 HP regen... or maybe someone can just spare a few MP and toss a Regen spell at people who might actually be hurt.

Healer's Roll at least had "some" use if you had a lot of downtime coming (i.e. party wipe). The rest of them will get used just as much as they do now, which is basically never.


Icemage

[Raydeus]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

Well, excuse me good Sirs but I think the 5 people who play the job will be thrilled about these changes.
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[Yygdrasil]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

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Best... ever...

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

I wouldn't even say that. On the whole, these changes mostly suck. Increased cure potency? Who cares? Oh be still my beating heart, -4 to +12 HP regen... or maybe someone can just spare a few MP and toss a Regen spell at people who might actually be hurt.

Healer's Roll at least had "some" use if you had a lot of downtime coming (i.e. party wipe). The rest of them will get used just as much as they do now, which is basically never.


Icemage

Yeah now that Ygg updated it, why even change Healers? Healing potency is a nice gimmick, but never as important as hHP or hMP when it comes to buffing a PT. Healers had utility for downtime at least.

And unless thats a typo, did they really just switch the names of Drachen and Puppet Rolls to "update" them?

[cidbahamut]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

It's even worse than cure potency. It's potency of cures received.

Who takes damage and needs healing? DDs
What do DDs want? DD rolls

Why on earth would anyone ever use the new healer's roll? What the fuck is SE smoking?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

The real problem with the Healer's Roll change is that its taking away something that was decent for mages and turning it into something that is useless for everyone. Even with the Abyssea buffs out there, mages seldom get buffs exclusive to their needs. A +hMP buff was something at least. Not the greatest thing ever, but it had a use and a purpose.

The pet buffs are an interesting niche, but they're so rarely used unless you literally have a pet PT. And for it to have any benefit at all, you need pet users that can sit still - which means summoners. What are the most beneficial rolls to summoners? Evoker's Roll and Healer's Roll.

And I'm being generous with the ideas that SMNs actually sit still. Its more like they, BLUs and BLMs come find you when they need you. WHM and SCH sit still. RDM.... fuck 'em if they walk into the melee side - they think they just need their own buffs.

[Malacite]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

Well, at least they finally fixed PUP & DRG rolls so they make sense - wtf did the wyvern ever need MAB for? BST roll is actually pretty nasty now as well...

Too bad they left some of more critical rolls untouched. How about changing Monk's Roll to +Haste already so COR can actually compete with BRD? That, or crank up the subtle blow sufficiently to make it worth using.

Magus Roll is still garbage. Warlock & Dancer's are marginally better... Gallant is too weak, as the way I'm reading that it looks like flat damage reduction, not % (I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it) which of course, big f'ing deal getting a max of -35 damage taken when NMs can hit for 300+ easily. Also Ygg you should fix your post, it does NOT say % on the official site).

SAM & DRK rolls are just fine, they're still quite strong. Wizard's, Rogue's & Fighter's Rolls all could have used a major boost though. Even with a WAR or a THF in the party, those rolls are terribly weak (even more so in abyssea) and Wizard's, while nice, really just doesn't add much bang. Maybe if they changed it to a % buff instead then it'd be great.

Ninja's roll could also do with a fair boosting.

[cidbahamut]

Re: [dev1069] Corsair Job Adjustments

They've confirmed it on the OF, Gallant Roll works like a phalanx effect and not a DT %. It does stack with Phalanx, but I still don't see it having anything other than niche use.

Mal's right on the money, shit needs more scaling and less flat values that were designed poorly at 75.