Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

[Laynton]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Mana Wall (BLM Lv.76 Ability Delay: 10 min. Effect Duration: 5 sec.)
Allows you to take damage with MP.

finally rdm getting new.....wait....NOTHING!!! OMG!!! we get updated spells....nothing new though!?!?! WTF SE WTF?!?

Baramnesia: RDM Lv.78

What uses amnesia besides imps? maybe new xp mobs im guessing...otherwise completley useless.

RDM/DNC now = WIN all the time booyah!.

All I saw was the get dual wield trait which is useless....or did I miss something?

Phalanx: PLD Lv.77[/B]

So did this just make phalanx2 worthless?

- Ninjutsu
Aisha: Ichi: NIN Lv.78
*Uses the ninja tool "Soshi".

What is this? Anyone know? I'm guessing some new status element or maybe an actual self buff?

Mana Wall (BLM Lv.76 Ability Delay: 10 min. Effect Duration: 5 sec.)
Allows you to take damage with MP.

Nice last minute "save your ass" ability while your running to zone i guess....but if your running your ass off to the zone to get away instead of sleeping the mob that usually means your out of MP which makes this useless.

So does Protect V mean that the merits WHM used to get Protect V just became a waist? Are the WHM out there going to merit something else now or going to keep what ya got?

Don't get me wrong happy we RDM's are getting some for magic DD but seriously nothing thats "NEW", which hacks me off.

[ShepardG]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Jesus so awesome, Cor get's movement speed!!!! and Fast cast!!! 11 get's double duration! friggin amazing! gonna have to go 5/5 on Fold cause i'm probably gonna be busting.... alot.

Dancer stuff is amazing, getting dual wield without /nin is amazing. DNC is already a TP beast I can't believe i'm gonna be able to sub Sam and carry 2 daggers still. AND sekkanoki goes to level 40! Guess who just got a permenent spot in Endgame Events!

Wow, haven't been this excited in a long time!

[Elwynn]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

finally rdm getting new.....wait....NOTHING!!! OMG!!! we get updated spells....nothing new though!?!?! WTF SE WTF?!?

RDM just got an update. Remember Composure?

Nice last minute "save your ass" ability while your running to zone i guess....but if your running your ass off to the zone to get away instead of sleeping the mob that usually means your out of MP which makes this useless.

What else would you use? Utsusemi? Gotta have /NIN. Stoneskin? Gotta have /WHM or /RDM. Blink? GMAFB, but still /WHM or /RDM. If you were a BLM, wouldn't you like to not be limited to three subjobs just so you can sleep the thing that's beating you into a bloody pulp?

So does Protect V mean that the merits WHM used to get Protect V just became a waist? Are the WHM out there going to merit something else now or going to keep what ya got?

Question: what does the second Protect/Shell V merit do? (and the 3rd-5th?) They set this at 76, so the first merit should still let you use it a level early, but I'm going to guess that the no-merit version is a little less strong than the one-merit version.

Don't get me wrong happy we RDM's are getting some for magic DD but seriously nothing thats "NEW", which hacks me off.

Because RDM never got anything before, ever. Especially not in the past year. Yeah, give SE all the bitching they deserve!

Still, no JA in the 75-80 range for RDM? That's the screwy part.


...and still no word yet from SE on what the "requirements" will be to reach 76.

[Ziero]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Magic Burst Bonus - ohey maybe we did over-nerf bursts after all (BLM 45!) Too bad it's only DRK that gets the nuke bonus.

...wait, huh? The Magic Burst bonus is for Blm/Sch/Nin. Drk only get the "TP for casting" bonus.

[Elwynn]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

...wait, huh? The Magic Burst bonus is for Blm/Sch/Nin. Drk only get the "TP for casting" bonus.

I missed the letters "TP". Also, that table didn't format very well, making the other jobs harder to see. (And I never said other jobs didn't get the burst bonus, but look at the level difference.)

[Dim Mahk]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

very excited about the SMN, BLM and THF info.

[Laynton]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

If you were a BLM, wouldn't you like to not be limited to three subjobs just so you can sleep the thing that's beating you into a bloody pulp?

What other sj would you use besides those 3? It lasts 5 sec....yes might let you get off a sleep but if you couldnt land a sleep while it was running at you to kick your ass odds are you aint going to get land another one...at least for long.

Ya we got composer....seems like it was a long time ago but really wasnt that long ago. LOVE IT btw! But still really hacked that we dont get at least a new JT! we havent got a new FC trait since 60? forget actual level but cant believe we didnt get one at atl east 80.

And I feel really dumb ask why rdm/dnc so awesome lol Still waking up when I read that. I thought it was like a DW trait that just reduced delay like if it was on a piece of armor not the actual ability.

Ya I have no knowledge of Protect V so pretty interested in some imput as well.

Missed the COR FC! excitied to see how much that actually is.

Oh and is SMN BP for just diablos fenrir and carby? im guessing?

Edit: Sorry I miss read Mana Wall as 5 sec not 5 min....so I retract most of what I said lol

[cidbahamut]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Thoroughly underwhelmed from a Red Mage standpoint honestly. Native Regen II is nice, but folks are already going to be subbing Scholar a lot. Fencer going to anything other than us irks me. Change the name or something, but don't taunt me like that. Losing exlusivity on Phalanx is kind of annoying, but at least it's going to a job where it makes sense: Paladin.

I guess I just don't see RDM getting anything indicative of where it's headed. Tier 4 nukes, a bar spell, a Regen we could already access and a buff that used to be merit only but's still not terribly useful.

[Laynton]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Native Regen II is nice

We would be getting that at 88 anyways. and just how regen is useless at 75 regen II will be useless at 80+ b/c i doubt well be gett regen III

[Elwynn]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Mana Wall (BLM Lv.76 Ability Delay: 10 min. Effect Duration: 5 sec.)
Allows you to take damage with MP.

Apparently this was an error in the original posting that has since been corrected.

The duration is actually 5 minutes. <(O.O)>

Presumably you'll lose MP based on how much damage you take. Now think about what might happen if you have it up and then pop Manafont.


And someone on wiki forums pointed out that DNC is not getting the Resist Amnesia trait. (I don't think I'd want to see that at a subbable level anyhow.)

[Kailea]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

"Dancers will be able to perform the ability "Cure Waltz" on non-party members.
- The "Dual Wield" job trait will become available to dancers at level 20, with the degree of mastery increasing in stages thereafter."



Must....not....come.....back.....must.....stay....away......

GOD DAMNIT! *starts kicking stuff around* ......ok I think I am better now.

[Romyro]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Also, is that a picture of a Blu using that Gnole hp restoral ability?

i cant see the pictures…but I was fighting gnoles in BD[s] yesterday. They are the weakest ones I can find (~Lv65) and they were using that Cure TP move for 1952 ><
Yes…its probably stupid to fight them during a Full moon…but when you’re 350/400 on your Magian trail…you just gotta finish it.

The following adjustments will be made to existing job abilities:
Mana Wall (BLM Lv.76 Ability Delay: 10 min. Effect Duration: 5 sec.)
Allows you to take damage with MP.

…Duration: 5 seconds?

Tactical Switch (PUP Lv.79 Ability Delay: 3 min.)
Swaps TP of master and automaton.

Hmm…I guess back to back stringing pummels could be kinda cool
Or you can WS more with /dnc then swap TP.

- Beastmasters will be able to invoke the aid of six new creatures via the "Call Beast" ability by using the following items:
Cunning Brain Broth / Lucky Carrot Broth / Deepbed Soil / Wool Grease / Vermihumus / Dancing Herbal Broth

Do we know what these are? I’m guessing Carrot is Rabbit. I would LOOOOVEE a high jug that has a curing TP move…save me some gil.
Could Wool Grease be a slime? Deepbed a HQ fungar?
Also…are current jugs like Currier Carrie or LDL considered uncapped or cap at 75

Stout Servant - Reduces damage taken by pet.
BST Lv.78
PUP Lv.78

This will fit beautifully with all my +Pet: DEF and Pet: -22%PDT

Fencer - Increases rate of critical hits when wielding with the main hand only. Grants a TP bonus to weapon skills.
WAR Lv.45
BST Lv.80

Sorry if I sound like an idiot…but does this mean it raises crits for your mainhand weapon or if you only have a weapon in your mainhand (such as an axe/shield)
Meaning does this work with /nin…and I guess now /dnc?

Resist Amnesia - Gives you a slight resistance against amnesia.
BST Lv.15
COR Lv.30
PUP Lv.15

Ha, no complaints here

[Sylvane]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

Sorry if I sound like an idiot…but does this mean it raises crits for your mainhand weapon or if you only have a weapon in your mainhand (such as an axe/shield)
Meaning does this work with /nin…and I guess now /dnc?

I'm guessing strictly from the wording, it's only if you're single wielding

I'm curious if it works with two handed weapons or if that's considered using both hands. I'm guessing it won't work with great axe.

[Romyro]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

yeah thats how i read it. It might be a nice bost for my Bst/whm. I dont see it being very good for War though...last time i saw a war with a shield was in the dunes

[Ziero]

Re: Adjustments of the Job Persuasion! (06/17/2010)

I thought it was like a DW trait that just reduced delay like if it was on a piece of armor not the actual ability.

The DW Trait is the ability that lets you DW. With Dncs getting it natively, it means people who use one handed weapons don't have to have such a heavy reliance on /nin. At this point, going /nin would just be to get Utsu.

I'm curious if it works with two handed weapons or if that's considered using both hands. I'm guessing it won't work with great axe.

I dunno, seeing as the War version is subbable, it wouldn't surprise me to see it be used for 2 handers as well. They are, afterall, a main hand slot only weapon. It could be SE's way of trying to make /war still viable post 90.

Also, if it's only useful for one handed axes, it would end up being a very lame trait.