The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

Full list of the Dagger Trials.

[Ziero]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

FFS the Dagger (31 DMG 211 Delay OAT) requires 300 Hippogryphs! Screw that.

Dude, the Hippogryph part is probably one of the easier trials for that weapon. Grab a friend, head to Riverene A and wail on the DC-EM ones. A thf and dnc can duo them until the end of time in there. You want annoying, go look at the Acc/Dex dagger. Killing 200 Qutrubs during lightning weather? I didn't even know there was lightning weather in Arrapango.

[Satori]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

I like the trials and the rewards from it. I just dont like the people doing them, They are rude and inconsiderate.
I doubt you guys are doing this but on Leviathan people are going to beastmaster camps to complete their trials.
I only have 3 other bst friends but the same thing is happening to them also.
It's very frustrating.

[Karinya]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

damn. either way I refuse to do these Magian weapons just yet since the best ones with OAT all require VNM drops and even just getting up there is a pain.

What's a VNM?

[Aksannyi]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

Voidwalker NMs, named by BG (I think), the new Abyssea NMs. I guess they didn't pick ANM because there's already ANNM.

[Firewind]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

So the known WHM NMs are Stray Mary and Dune Widow (two NMs whose lifespans have never exeeded two minutes), a Pixie NM that needs a full group to kill and can appear in one of 6 different zones and Lamprey Lord, an NM that WHMs can't solo...You know what I think I'm glad I'm still not playing the game

[Nuriko]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

Dude, the Hippogryph part is probably one of the easier trials for that weapon. Grab a friend, head to Riverene A and wail on the DC-EM ones. A thf and dnc can duo them until the end of time in there. You want annoying, go look at the Acc/Dex dagger. Killing 200 Qutrubs during lightning weather? I didn't even know there was lightning weather in Arrapango.

That's been corrected to weather/day ... basically, if you could get a potency boost to the corresponding spell (EXCEPT through SCH storms!), you get the credit. I'd like to know whose idea the 150 flans was, though. THF and DNC just aren't likely to do too well against them, the only effective way I can see is to go as BRD to a manaburn...

[Takelli]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

That's been corrected to weather/day ... basically, if you could get a potency boost to the corresponding spell (EXCEPT through SCH storms!), you get the credit. I'd like to know whose idea the 150 flans was, though. THF and DNC just aren't likely to do too well against them, the only effective way I can see is to go as BRD to a manaburn...

Or... You could team up with a Blm, or a Sch friend and do it that way. Get some exp or limit points, and unlock it.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

Or... You could team up with a Blm, or a Sch friend and do it that way.

Everybody is your friend on FFXI as long as you're not the one asking for help.

[Nuriko]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

Or... You could team up with a Blm, or a Sch friend and do it that way. Get some exp or limit points, and unlock it.

I said effective, this is basically leeching, and you still need LOTS of kills under specific conditions.

[Ziero]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

Voidwalker NMs, named by BG (I think), the new Abyssea NMs. I guess they didn't pick ANM because there's already ANNM.

That and the fact that these things are precursors to the actual Abyssea content and not actually Abyssea mobs.

That's been corrected to weather/day ... basically, if you could get a potency boost to the corresponding spell (EXCEPT through SCH storms!), you get the credit. I'd like to know whose idea the 150 flans was, though. THF and DNC just aren't likely to do too well against them, the only effective way I can see is to go as BRD to a manaburn...

Well that's a little better, but it's still only 45 minutes every few hours to kill Qutrub and those things take forever to kill. Though yea, flans will be a bitch and a half as well. What are the lowest level flans in the game? If there are like EM ones a Dnc and Thf could easily duo em, blink away single target spells, Dnc stuns -gas. In Nyzul DC/EM ones aren't all that tough, but the NM ones usually hurt without a full group around.

Everybody is your friend on FFXI as long as you're not the one asking for help.

Psh, you don't ask for help, you demand it!

...in reality, a lot of higher tier trials correspond with trials for other weapons, so you just need to find someone else who needs what you need.

[Neverslip]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

... still unsure about thes VNMs... do you only get credit for EP mobs and up... or can you kill Too Weak mobs as well. Was just gonna say with regards to Flans, might as well wait for CoP area caps to be taken away.

[Ziero]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

VNMs are a different system from the Magian weapons. You don't need to go for Magian weapons to do VNMs.

With the Magian trials though, only mobs that give Exp unless it's an NM

And there are no Flans in CoP. Flans are ToAU only mobs.

[Aksannyi]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

From what I read (and it wasn't much, though I've tried to follow some of the new stuff) VNM is kind of like ZNM in some ways, but with different pop conditions obviously. But there are tiers and whatnot.

Then again, I kind of skimmed the thread while looking at some pics just because it's hard to really follow anything on BG anymore that's related to the game.

[Malacite]

Re: The Version Update Has Arrived! (03/22/2010)

From what I read (and it wasn't much, though I've tried to follow some of the new stuff) VNM is kind of like ZNM in some ways, but with different pop conditions obviously. But there are tiers and whatnot.

From what I understand you get some kind of key from the new NPC in Ru'lude, then it "upgrades" as you kill the VNMs allowing you to right the bigger ones, or something like that as opposed to the stupid way ZNM forces you to "farm" mobs.


And I agree that BG is becoming more and more of a headache. Sadly it's still the best forum for info related to the game.