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**Ketaru** · 03-02-2010, 02:10 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

As far as any of us can really know, there is only one constant when it comes to updates:

People will attempt to resist them as much as possible.

Honestly, I go online and sometimes do a search of all the jobs to see where they stand as far as popularity goes. RDM almost always comes out on top in sheer numbers. It probably deserves to have some of the limelight taken away from it. But even as far as increased level caps go, all I still see is a leveling of the playing field. And that's only at the very high levels.

I bet anything that quite a few events in the game will suddenly come attached with 75 Level caps to retain some resemblance to the game before June of 2010.

**Yellow Mage** · 03-02-2010, 02:57 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

I don't know if you've seen me about for the past couple of days, but I'm absolutely ecstatic at what an increased level cap could possibly mean for Red Mages. Carte blanche, baby!

**Malacite** · 03-02-2010, 05:25 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post

SCH could stand to gain potentially two more charges with lowered recharge times. Being able to do something more often can sometimes trump being able to do it better.

Oh holy shit can you imagine a 5th charge with 30 second recast? /drool...

Speaking of SCH, god damn it! > _ < I thought Ebullience would be accessible but no, that's lv 55... and since the new cap will be 99 and not 100, that rules out several lv 50 benefits too. It's a shame really, things like Super Jump could have really, really dramatically changed some jobs. But then I suppose they really didn't want WHM/SCH having that 3rd stratagem on a 1:30 timer.

SE has already said on their twitter page that RDM will be getting more Enfeebling Magic, and WHM is getting more Healing & Divine as well as more opportunities to use Divine Magic. Now, that can only mean 2 things; More Divine Magic buffs like Auspice, or more Undead Mobs (preferably the former)

I am very curious how SE is going to handle some of the various balance issues that are going to come up, besides the obvious magic related ones.

For instance, has anyone else even given the slightest thought to the obscenity that is going to be /NIN at level 90? Dual Wield III is a pretty big deal. Or /DNC offering Revers Flourish? BLM's likely going to be quite pissed off as well since Warp II will now be a SJ spell. Aggressor and Counterstance are also on the table now, so predicting that SAM sub is going to be given a serious run for it's money even with Sekkanoki being added to SJ. Most weapons can't chain with itself nearly as efficiently as GKT can anyway, so I don't see the point of that in all honesty.

I'm a little more interested in what's going to be added as well. Sleepga III? Thunder V/Thundaga IV? Utsusemi: San? Dare I say it, Massacre Elegy?! BRD is certain to get at least one more Tier of Minuet and Madrigal, but what if they add a 3rd March? BRD is also going to be able to throw out Evoker's Roll now with /COR.

The list goes on and on...

**Taskmage** · 03-02-2010, 07:14 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

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According to this interview, one of the ideas they're kicking around is giving rdm a Refresh II. Clearly there are no hard plans but it suggests they are committed to making major changes and adjustments to jobs.

**Yellow Mage** · 03-02-2010, 07:32 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

I find it conspicuous that the interviewer brought up Refresh and Convert specifically . . . but maybe it's just me.

A stronger Refresh . . .

I guess it would be a happy medium between more magic-oriented Red Mages going "noes! they be takin our magikz! D: " and Red Mage's currently forced-upon "role" of whoring out Refresh and Convert like nobody's business (thus, of course, the band-wagoner pink mages looking for easier merits for their White Mages, who ironically do nothing more than perpetuate the problematic status quo in the first place . . . but I'm digressing). Still, I can only think "meh :/ ".

**Malacite** · 03-02-2010, 10:23 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

I would think Refresh II + Accession would vastly trump SCH being able to Accession + Refresh more often, at least in the short term.

**ShadowHolyFlyingDragon** · 03-03-2010, 04:13 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

If pts are already the suck... what will raising the cap to lvl 99 do?

Shouldn't they find a way to tweak the pts to make them more attractive and fun to be in? u_u -growl-

**Takelli** · 03-03-2010, 04:18 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by ShadowHolyFlyingDragon View Post

If pts are already the suck... what will raising the cap to lvl 99 do?

Shouldn't they find a way to tweak the pts to make them more attractive and fun to be in? u_u -growl-

The reason why they are "the suck", as you put it, is because its hard to find both a healer, and a tank seeking at the same time. Unless of course, you are in a duo with a tank/healer, and you are a healer/tank.

As for the reason people want to be in them is because of the 5 fold exp gain from a party compared to solo.

**Neverslip** · 03-03-2010, 04:29 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Takelli View Post

The reason why they are "the suck", as you put it, is because its hard to find both a healer, and a tank seeking at the same time. Unless of course, you are in a duo with a tank/healer, and you are a healer/tank.

I'd go a step further and say ... most players seek the most ideal setup possible. The 'leet will only settle for a huge amt of xp per hour. I'm happy just making better xp/hr than I can thru FoV or Campaign. People are too picky about xp/hr, imHo. The time wasted seeking their perfect setup is xp lost to me. Course that may be jaded by a DNC main who never NEVER gets party invites tho I know it's a great job for xp parties.

**Malacite** · 03-03-2010, 04:59 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Neverslip View Post

The 'leet will only settle for a huge amt of xp per hour.

I only do this when it comes to merits because I hate meriting. Otherwise I'll try to put an ideal PT together but take what I can if I can't unless it's going to be super slow (5~6k/hour or less) in which case probably better off leaving your flag up for a better PT or soloing or anything else productive (I'm talking 55+ here. 6k/hour is actually pretty decent for levels 10~54, though I've had Qufim Ilsand PT that broke 12 with FoV and BRD + COR)

**Takelli** · 03-03-2010, 05:57 PM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Neverslip View Post

Course that may be jaded by a DNC main who never NEVER gets party invites tho I know it's a great job for xp parties.

What server are you on? I'm on Alexander.

When I'm soloing, 30% of the time I get invites when I have my flag up. 5% when I'm just sitting there in Jeuno AFK with out my flag, which is a bit odd...

**Neverslip** · 03-04-2010, 10:03 AM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Takelli View Post

What server are you on? I'm on Alexander.

Hades... soon to be Cerberus.

**Grizzlebeard** · 03-04-2010, 10:09 AM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Neverslip View Post

Hades... soon to be Cerberus.

Only me who finds it ironic Hades is being merged and replaced with Cerberus, the three-headed hound that guarded the entrance to Hades in Greek mythology?

**Mhurron** · 03-04-2010, 10:20 AM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Grizzlebeard View Post

Only me who finds it ironic Hades is being merged and replaced with Cerberus, the three-headed hound that guarded the entrance to Hades in Greek mythology?

Possibly, because that's not ironic.

**Neverslip** · 03-04-2010, 10:37 AM

Re: New Version Update Announced! (02/23/2010)

Originally posted by Grizzlebeard View Post

Only me who finds it ironic Hades is being merged and replaced with Cerberus, the three-headed hound that guarded the entrance to Hades in Greek mythology?

Yeah... there's alot of people in forums that are pointing that out and there's another... Fairy being enveloped by Sylph. A Sylph being a kind of Fairy. I'm wondering if the idea (only in which servers remain) was to make the the remaining one's names more tied to FFxi mythos... as far as I know, there is no location "Hades" but we all know and love Cerberus or there is no "Fairy" village. For some reason I identify Sylph with FF, but can't make the connection atm to furth my point, lmao.

I'm really gonna miss the:

"Welcome to Hades.. . .. . ." whenever I log in. It's kinda sad/funny that I'm attached to it at all, imHo.

I'm kinda up in the air on changing my name... it woulda been a mixed blessing for me. I get alot of whispers whenever I'm KO'd about "slipping" on banana peels and crap. LOL... I made the name before I knew death was so common place... and got the character too far to turn back when I realized it.

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