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  • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

    Skill up a pain? I got all my battle skills capped solo before SE added all the nice signet bonus and all the new pieces of armor. Heck I even capped Club as a PLD and got the quest WS.

    But then again I always have fun soloing so skill up was pretty easy for me. /shrug

    I wish I could send you my kupowers, kupo.



    PS > Wait I still need to cap throwing (like 50 lvls) and Archery (around 30 levels) on RDM, now that I think about it. I guess it should be way easier now.

    Still, screw the kupowers.
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    • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

      It's not an issue of difficulty, but slowness. Averaging 4-5 points an hour on higher Delay weapons sucks pretty hard, and it's not like making skill-ups a pain makes me a better player or gives me any sense of achievement.

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      • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

        So you do understand why that kind of pointless time sinks hurt gameplay. I don't understand why people can't see that in other aspects of the game as well.

        Also, if you are getting such crappy skill ups it sounds to me like you are overcamping. I don't remember getting such a bad skill rate, unless SE ninja "adjusted" something there.

        Either way at least in my experience mobs 3-5 levels above my current skill cap lvl worked the best regardless of skill rating. But your results may vary.
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        • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

          So you do understand why that kind of pointless time sinks hurt gameplay. I don't understand why people can't see that in other aspects of the game as well.
          Perhaps because fighting in a group is almost entirely the point of the game?
          Also, if you are getting such crappy skill ups it sounds to me like you are overcamping. I don't remember getting such a bad skill rate, unless SE ninja "adjusted" something there.
          I never bite off more than I can chew; there's no point in using Pamamas over sushi to drop my Delay if I'm gonna end up missing a lot. The skill-up rate is just that bad.

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          • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

            Seriously, what the fuck is with the moogle powers? Are they broken or is there some gimmick to them I'm missing?

            Just spent an hour or so in a skill up party, did not notice anything different from the last time I was in tree on MNK/DNC skilling staff & guard. I got a single .5 guard skill up which was pretty cool, but I'm calling that a fluke given how flaky guarding is to begin with.

            For Quickening, you have to rest for about 1 tic. I still have no clue how you trigger Regen and Refresh as they seem to activate randomly of their own accord... - _ -' fail.
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            • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

              Maybe the Regen/Refresh effects trigger at certain HP/MP% just like with Sanction and Sigil?

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              • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                Originally posted by Armando View Post
                Maybe the Regen/Refresh effects trigger at certain HP/MP% just like with Sanction and Sigil?
                Yep. Someone (Elwynn?) confirmed that a few pages ago.

                I didn't notice a tremendous increase in skill-ups, either. I doubt it's anything epic, probably a small-ish percent increase. And I don't think I'd notice a turtle moving 10% faster than normal, either.
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                • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                  Originally posted by Armando View Post
                  I'd be more worried about everyone being able to HELM more by running really freaking fast in certain areas, but eh. I don't really care. SE seems to be doing a good enough job at cracking down on them.
                  People can already do that with Sprint Shoes. They help, but they're not game breaking.

                  Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                  I still have no clue how you trigger Regen and Refresh as they seem to activate randomly of their own accord... - _ -' fail.
                  It's a latent effect that procs at about 50% or lower. Just like every other refresh/regen.

                  I mean seriously, the only reason why any of this is a problem is because you had false expectations based on nothing. For everyone else who waited to see how these things would actually work, they came out pretty nice.
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                  • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                    People can already do that with Sprint Shoes. They help, but they're not game breaking.
                    Well, yeah, but those aren't free.

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                    • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                      Just spent an hour or so in a skill up party, did not notice anything different from the last time I was in tree on MNK/DNC skilling staff & guard. I got a single .5 guard skill up which was pretty cool, but I'm calling that a fluke given how flaky guarding is to begin with.
                      From what I have heard, the effects don't activate in dungeons, so if you were in the Tree skilling up then you didn't receive any of the Kupowers.

                      Which makes me wonder about Sea now. Does that count as a dungeon? And is it one of those "certain areas excluded"?


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                      • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                        I would expect the Kupowers to only work in the ~30 areas the tablets can appear in in the first place, but don't quote me on that. I haven't logged in since before this started. Damned final exams.

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                        • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                          Originally posted by Vyuru View Post
                          From what I have heard, the effects don't activate in dungeons, so if you were in the Tree skilling up then you didn't receive any of the Kupowers.

                          Which makes me wonder about Sea now. Does that count as a dungeon? And is it one of those "certain areas excluded"?
                          Originally posted by Elwynn View Post
                          So I finally used up last night's XP ring charge and started going around a bit. It looks like the effects do include cities and dungeon areas, it's just the Mog Tablets that are limited to the list of areas. Which are the "certain areas excluded"? BCs, I'm sure, but at this point I can't think of anything else.

                          And the Refresh/Regen from Signet is a latent effect that only works to half the bar, just like Sigil. Still, this could be a fun time to level Summoner, if I were planning to any time in the near future.
                          I haven't been in a dungeon myself, but it's not hard to tell. You get a message about the powers being in effect anytime you zone, so if you don't see it, you ain't got it. Wiki says that Dynamis, Sea, and Sky are excluded.
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                          • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                            Well partied in Western Altep Desert last night on Beetles. Lvl 41 > 42 on Dark knight. I am ashamed to say that my Scythe skill was only 101 when I went in (I feel bad when an ls member is 1 member short of a sync party I think I am going to stop syncing anythin below 3 of my level). Now using squid sushi I didn't see any constant skill ups per hit accept on criticals I always skill up for some reason even before the event. But instead of the .1s and .2s I was recieving .5s and .6s. I am not sure if it was because my skill was so low or because of Kupo powers. But yeah I had to get a fresh signet for the powers activated by signet to show, but the refesh and regen are reliable, I didn't notice at first until I went AFK for WC run and came back and I was back to high yellow and my chat log was empty. I do not believe those activate while in battle but that might just because I didn't notice while draining my life back up.

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                            • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                              Originally posted by Sekighara View Post
                              Well partied in Western Altep Desert last night on Beetles. Lvl 41 > 42 on Dark knight. I am ashamed to say that my Scythe skill was only 101 when I went in (I feel bad when an ls member is 1 member short of a sync party I think I am going to stop syncing anythin below 3 of my level). Now using squid sushi I didn't see any constant skill ups per hit accept on criticals I always skill up for some reason even before the event. But instead of the .1s and .2s I was recieving .5s and .6s. I am not sure if it was because my skill was so low or because of Kupo powers. But yeah I had to get a fresh signet for the powers activated by signet to show, but the refesh and regen are reliable, I didn't notice at first until I went AFK for WC run and came back and I was back to high yellow and my chat log was empty. I do not believe those activate while in battle but that might just because I didn't notice while draining my life back up.
                              I can for sure say that I've never seen a .6 before lol, but I've seen .5's. Usually because my skills were so low. I'd probably see a bunch of those if I went to skill up Axe atm. So maybe the tablet is working then and good to hear that somebody took advantage of it.

                              I've noticed alot more brown treasure caskets dropping for me as of late, but I haven't got anything of value yet. Did see a Blind Ring once but I already had one.

                              When I was soloing on BLM yesterday, I got a few skillups on magics but possible caps were short lived because I was on anniband and leveling fast lol. 2MP per tick on refresh was pretty nice at my level when I was below 51% (Also had FoV Refresh.) and when I had juice I got 4MP per tick.
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                              • Re: Go All to Pieces—The Mog Tablet Quest Unearthed! (05/07/2009)

                                Originally posted by Armando View Post
                                I would expect the Kupowers to only work in the ~30 areas the tablets can appear in in the first place, but don't quote me on that. I haven't logged in since before this started. Damned final exams.
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                                They work in every pre-ToAU area (original, Zilart, CoP) except Dynamis, Sea, and Sky. They may even work in BCs. I went to Full Moon Fountain and got that stupid message again when I zoned in.
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