Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

When cast upon a white mage for whom Afflatus Misery is activated, Auspice also adds light damage to initial attacks and bestows an accuracy bonus when target is missed.

No no.

Accuracy Bonus I and II and Enlight.

Just to piss RDMs off.

Curse you 'kitten! CUUUUUURSE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!















. . . Seriously, though, epic update for White Mages. It makes me optimistic about what S-E has in store for us Red Mages, and I may actually take White Mage to 40 once I'm done with Paladin, just to play with the new stuff.

[ruffrydasean]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

my bet is the original 6 jobs are all getting updated in this manner. WHM, BLM, THF, WAR, RDM, MNK... I just hope I'm right

Blm blm!!!! O god yes please blm next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

These are very interesting and attractive changes. The ability to dole out mini-stoneskins via the cures is a rather decent answer to SCH's AoE Stoneskin, though I'm guessing the stoneskin effect might be in some ratio to the cure cast and likely not exceeding the usual limit. That and I don't really see it displacing SCH's AoE Stoneskin, but rather, help support its effectiveness. Since Accession Stoneskin usually lasts melees a few fights, but a PLD only part of fight (good NIN can keep SS for a good bit), this can let WHM fill the hole on supporting the PLD with Stoneskin so a SCH didn't have to constantly re-apply it to a tank.

Also, I wonder if this would help make WAR tanking make a comeback. It would add a bit more durability to it than we currently have.

Best part of these changes is all the major changes remain exclusive to WHM save for some of the spell adjustments. I don't see RDMs getting anything remotely similar to these effects, but this makes me more interested in what SE plans to do with RDM. This update pushes WHM to the frontline where its needed, but also takes back a lot of ground from other mages for the healer slot, RDM most namely.

SE's "stance" concept for jobs has generally been a good one, save for the lackluster Footwork. SAM's Hasso and Seigan, SCH's Light and Dark Arts, RNG's Velocity Shot and now these WHM changes have all proven to be rather positive additions. I think the "stance" concept can apply to RDM as well, so I'm hoping that's what they'll do.

[Gobo]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Since no one else has mentioned it, the French and Japanese notes clarify a few things

Esuna only works if the WHM has the status effect(s).

Auspice's Enlight and acc bonus are for the WHM only


And on a completely unrelated note, harvest cheddar sunchips blown up in a bomb calorimeter smell like old people.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Also, important note:

One less excuse not to sub /SCH, at 70+ you have access to Reraise under sub as of this update. I was contemplating BST/SCH for 70+ and now have no reason not to. Addendum White would alleviate most status cures, though still lacking Erase.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Ooh, I just realized a moment ago: all of you White Mage mains can GTFO Red Mage now, kthnxbye. You all know who you are and why.

[Firewind]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

> . < still, that's what refreshers and celerity are for? Either way it's great news (in Dynacore we usually R3 anyway unless we're extremely short on time. This is gonna go a long way)

Also, HOLY CRAP RR with /SCH!

It's easier to go R3, Celerity+R2, Celerity+R1, rest, R1, R2

And wow I can get RR if I go COR/SCH. Nice to know that.

[Wise Donkey]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Just wanted to chime in my @_@. I am very curious to see how much SS you get from the Cure spells.

[Malacite]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

For the love of God please let the other job adjustments be just as good!

My guess is there's going to be a preset cap on how much stoneskin you can give from having taken damage, as BBQ said in line with each cure. Hopefully it will be equivalent to the soft cap of each cure at minimum (so 30, 90, 180 etc)


That makes Cure V somewhat interesting though... potentially uncapped stoneskin? I wonder just how much of a beating the WHM has to take to build it up too.

My only real disappointment here is with Afflatus Misery, particularly in regards to Holy. Why doesn't this one accumulate? and it overwrites, which means you could suddenly take a weaker hit and lose a big bonus to Holy. And it's only for the 1 casting?

I dunno, they did say they were trying to go for a frontline update to WHM and a lot of this contributes to that goal. However I do feel they failed on Misery by not making it cumulative. The reason being that assuming you're solo, you're gonna be taking multiple hits (wtf happens when hit by a multi-hit TP move? Does it all pile it as 1 big hit?) and so the fact that it won't accumulate blows and depending on what you're fighting, you'll likely be more inclined to use Solace.

Just a bit of constructive criticism for you. Other than /SCH, this is probably the biggest and best update to WHM in some time.

[ospeff]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

None of this is particularly good.

[hexx]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

None of this is particularly good.

Great, gotta chime in and ruin the party eh?


Seriously though, some of these updates gonna put WHMs back where they belong, as THE healers of FFXI. I cant wait to see what else SE has in store for us

[Firewind]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Remember kids, don't feed the troll.

[Truece]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Remember kids, don't feed the troll.

It's okay, so long as it's not after midnight, right?

[hexx]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

It's okay, so long as it's not after midnight, right?

LOL thats Mogwai's not trolls >_>

[ospeff]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

It honestly isn't that good. I'm seeing a bunch of crap for WHM solo ? Enlight? WHM-only accuracy? That's retarded, WHM is for healing not for that. The only things remotely interesting are Esuna, and the stoneskin effect, though I'm willing to bet it wont be much.

I hope the BLM update isn't this terrible, I'm expecting something retarded like Scythe skill cap increased to B+ and en-dark, lol, I really am. SE just doesn't get it.

It is evident the FFXI community is starving for updates and willing to take anything, if blizzard pulled a shitty update like this on the healing classes of WoW there would be an uproar.