Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

[Akashimo]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

@_@
Must get update now.
I really can't wait to spend a few hours trying these out or trying them out at hnms right after nabbing the spells <.<;

[Lmnop]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Cura sounds pretty useful for front-line fighting and campaign in general. I'm hoping it has a fast recast and low MP cost considering it sounds like it's meant to be there to quickly heal the DDs and tank quickly while you bash away with your hammer.

I was wondering what the difference could be between Cura and Curaga. I think you may have the right of it. Considering it's based on you running a JA that is getting you pounded, I think a quick snap-off cure to counter the last AoE with low mp cost and low casting time would be ideal. Now imagine if it were small with a HUGE bonus from Misery... say 1:1 basis. :D

So for example: Cura heals everyone for 90 HP with a low casting time. But if you get aoe'd for 600 damage, Cura gets a +600 HP bonus to its cure amount. Now pair that with a static hate value like Cure V...

Unless you want to tank and use Cura boost to make the hate freakin' solid...

[Omniblast]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Time to brush off the old condom hat and go whm again. For a while atleast.

Side note. RR with /sch sub, nice.

[Firewind]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Time to brush off the old condom hat and go whm again. For a while atleast.

It's not a hat it's a hood!

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

SEXY....PURE SEXINESS!!! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!

[Durahansolo]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

I think this update as a whole will be enough to bring me back from my break from the game. It's too epic to resist.

[Malacite]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Am I the only only one here absolutely fucking floored by the spell changes?! OMG EPIC UPDATE!!!!


RR is now level 25 for WHM. This is huge. Now WHM's can RR without items in 30-caps, and people subbing WHM for 50-cap events like mission 5-1 can RR!

And now all raises are 150 MP and cast quicker?! USING R1 IN PLACE OF R3 IS NO LONGER A VALID GOD DAMN EXCUSE! OMFG this is going to have a dramatic impact on things like Dynamis. R1 and R3 now cost the same god damn MP YES! ^_^

Only difference is casting time, which means it's now officially more efficient (I think) for a WHM/SCH to use Celerity over Penury on R3 in an emergency. Otherwise, 75 MP for R3 instead of 125 is pretty damned sweet.


AND FUCK YEAH ESUNA AT LAST!!!! For once my faith in SE has really paid off (I've been wanting to level WHM to 75 but I said I'd wait for the Spring update. Good times are ahead ^^)

[Firewind]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

And now all raises are 150 MP and cast quicker?! USING R1 IN PLACE OF R3 IS NO LONGER A VALID GOD DAMN EXCUSE! OMFG this is going to have a dramatic impact on things like Dynamis. R1 and R3 now cost the same god damn MP YES! ^_^

Recovering from a wipe in a tamed event would like to say hello to you. Sometimes it's just more efficient for some people to eat R1's and R2's because the recast timer for R3 while weakened to close to 2 minutes.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Mal....calm down Mal....it's okay.....come on sit down over here....have some tea....here's a cookie....


Fyi, Mal, the CASTING time has been reduced but not the RECAST time. So when I'm weak and I need to cast multiple raises and we are doing a timed event.....you are still going to eat a R1 because my recast on R3 is INSANE when I'm weak.

[Malacite]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

> . < still, that's what refreshers and celerity are for? Either way it's great news (in Dynacore we usually R3 anyway unless we're extremely short on time. This is gonna go a long way)

Also, HOLY CRAP RR with /SCH!

[Aksannyi]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

There is much to be said here.

Actually gonna go back and quote the first post.

- Afflatus Solace
(Lv40 Ability Delay: 1 min. Duration: 2 hrs.)
Inspires you to draw strength from the healing spells you cast.

- Afflatus Misery
(Lv40 Ability Delay: 1 min. Duration: 2 hrs.)
Inspires you to draw strength from the damage you take.

This is interesting. I'm sure much testing will be done immediately after the update, unfortunately, I will be in Dragon's Aery. Where I will sit for 2.5 hours waiting for the most failure of an LS to claim and nearly wipe, only to pull the win out of their asses and get Ridill. No jokes. (I'm not jaded.)

I'm seriously intrigued by new job abilities, and not the kind I would have expected. I do often get smacked REALLY FREAKING HARD through Stoneskin in Dynamis from time to time (Curing BLMs does that), and this could be really awesome. Gonna be really interesting to relearn my job though. O.o

- Sacrifice (Lv65)
Transfers one enfeebling effect from target to yourself.
Casting Sacrifice while Afflatus Solace is activated grants a bonus to the number and variety of enfeebling effects transferred.

This will be amazing. When Erase timer is down, it will be a fucking godsend. I just hope it doesn't have "no effect" when I've already got the effect on me. Some AoEs which are really annoying are also really long range. (Or I don't bother to remove them from myself, such as attack down, who cares!?!)

- Cure / Cure II / Cure III / Cure IV / Cure V
Casting the above Cure spells while Afflatus Solace is activated grants the target the effect of Stoneskin for a short duration.
The Stoneskin effect attained via this method is not stackable with and will not overwrite the white magic spell "Stoneskin" or Blood Pact: Ward ability "Earthen Ward."

- Elemental Resistance Spells
Casting Bar- type spells while Afflatus Solace is activated grants an additional defense bonus to the associated element.

- Holy
Casting Holy while Afflatus Solace is activated grants a potency bonus to the spell based on the amount of HP you restore. The record of accumulated HP is reset upon use.

Testing, prz. OMG. I have a lot of Cure potency already, I might have to start removing MND gear and stacking -enmity gear, unless the enmity stays at what it would have before the JA was activated, which would be SWEET.

- Cura (Lv40)
Restores HP for party members within area of effect.
Casting Cura while Afflatus Misery is activated grants a potency bonus to the spell based on the most recent damage you sustain.
The record of damage taken is reset upon use.

I guess this one is to go hand in hand with Afflatus Misery? And the other Curaga-ish spells are not? Wonder how potent it will be, etc. Also wonder if it is self-target, like barspells, meaning I have to be in range to cast it.

- Esuna (Lv61)
Removes one enfeebling effect from yourself and party members within area of effect.
Casting Esuna while Afflatus Misery is activated grants a bonus to the number and variety of enfeebling effects removed.

"From yourself and party members within area of effect" So seems I will have to be in AoE range to use it, but whatever. It's better than a ten minute Divine Veil timer. I hope the recast doesn't suck. This will be another set of spells to put enmity gear on. Spellcast is getting tweaked come April!

- Auspice (Lv55)
Reduces TP dealt when striking an enemy for party members within area of effect.
When cast upon a white mage for whom Afflatus Misery is activated, Auspice also adds light damage to initial attacks and bestows an accuracy bonus when target is missed.

This is just hot. So it's bascially a Subtle Blow enhancement effect for melees. I like this, will be really nice in Salvage and on HNMs.

Banish / Banish II / Banish III / Banishga / Banishga II
Casting the above Banish spells while Afflatus Misery is activated grants a potency bonus to the spell based on the most recent damage you sustain.
The record of damage taken is reset upon use.

Yeah, I have a really good Banish set, but I'm often disappointed by the spells. Let's hope this beefs it up a bit.

- White magic "Banish II": Slight increase to magic accuracy. Casting time shortened from 3.75 to 2.5 seconds.
- White magic "Banish III": Slight increase to magic accuracy. Casting time shortened from 5.5 to 3 seconds.
- White magic "Banishga II": Slight increase to magic accuracy.
- White magic "Raise II": MP consumption reduced from 200 to 150. Casting time shortened from 20 to 14 seconds.
- White magic "Raise III": MP consumption reduced from 250 to 150. Casting time shortened from 20 to 13 seconds.
- White magic "Reraise": Learning requirement reduced from Lv33 to Lv25 for WHM, and Lv40 to Lv35 for SCH.
- White magic "Reraise II": Learning requirement reduced from Lv60 to Lv56 for WHM, and Lv75 to Lv70 for SCH. MP consumption reduced from 175 to 150. Casting time shortened from 8 to 7.5 seconds.
- White magic "Reraise III": Learning requirement reduced from Lv75 to Lv70 for WHM. MP consumption reduced from 200 to 150. Casting time shortened from 8 to 7 seconds.
- Job ability "Martyr": Ability range increased to be equivalent to Cure spells.

WOW lowered MP costs! Although when I'm weakened, it won't matter much because of the recast timer. Guess I'll just Celerity spam instead of Penury/Celerity. Martyr adjustment makes me happy too! I don't use it much, but when I need it, I'm glad to have it. Now if only they'd do the same for Devotion. ^_^

Casting times never bothered me, I don't know why they changed that, but I guess it will be nice if I'm raising someone and someone else is getting hardcore owned, I may be able to save them.



A lot of this is very win, but really there is a lot to be learned here. I will reserve my judgment on some of the new stuff (abilities) mostly until I see how they play.

[meSchnitzel]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

my bet is the original 6 jobs are all getting updated in this manner. WHM, BLM, THF, WAR, RDM, MNK... I just hope I'm right

[Durahansolo]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

my bet is the original 6 jobs are all getting updated in this manner. WHM, BLM, THF, WAR, RDM, MNK... I just hope I'm right

If WAR gets a update you will see me breakdance. We probably won't get one since we got Retaliation awhile back though. However, if we do, you will get to see Dura do the Elvaan Robot.

[Pteryx]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

Hm, looks like WHM's suddenly becoming complicated. Still, soon at 40+ we'll (usually) give out a bit of free Stoneskin with our Cures? That should help give WHM a much-needed efficiency boost. Nice that our nukes are becoming more useful too (and that Holy's becoming useful again at all). I'm not sure what the point of Cura is going to be, though (and I agree that it's confusing to yank that name out of nowhere for it, too). As for Esuna and Sacrifice, they sound like they have potential to help us actually begin to compete with SCH in what's supposed to be our specialty, but I'll wait and see what they actually remove under what circumstances. I approve of the other little tweaks as well, especially the Raises. -- Pteryx

[Dim Mahk]

Re: Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009) [WHM]

WOW... this is unreal here. that is dam near a whole makeover from the way WHM will be played... Well seening how SCH has been putting WHM into a corner with its abilities This was to be expected. I am happy for WHM's out there.