Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

[ospeff]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Also it said armor, but would that mean earring and rings would fall under that as well.

Since it looks like they are copying WoW, probably not, you can't enchant accessories there, well, only under special circumstances anyway.

[Gyotsha]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Is malmage even a word? lol

For some reason I can't see SE allowing us to augment equipment like hauby. This seems more like a system to make currently useless gear more appealing to players.

Like others have said, my guess is that we'll only be able to augment gear that has no stats on it. Would be nice if any piece of armor could be augmented though. Hauby with +haste and more attack or str would be sweet :D

[Durahansolo]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

WoW had this since day 1, I am not impressed, SE is always late.

Since it looks like they are copying WoW, probably not, you can't enchant accessories there, well, only under special circumstances anyway.

Do we really need to start a "This was copied from this...Topic?" Everything in some way shape or form was at some point copied from something else and nothing is Original anymore. It isn't like WoW was the first game ever to use Augments nor was FFXI the first MMO.

(Why is this forum starting to feel like GameFAQs Saints Row vs GTA topic?)

Hauby with +haste and more attack or str would be sweet :D

Yeah, or even +evasion to even out the -evasion. Haubergeon with 0 or + AGI.

[Nuriko]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I can't see this as being terribly useful for higher-level characters, even working on your lower-level jobs ... making the gear EX means you have more gear you can't mule. It might be good for gear you carry around with no stat boosts ... but really, ARE there any?

[Feba]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

feba, learn to read.

[Truece]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

uh, where does it say Ex? No AH != No trade. Even if you can't DB it, you can trade it to a friend and have them trade it to a mule.

Furthermore, to maintain the items' exclusivity, it will not be possible to trade them to your companions, nor sell them via the auction house or bazaars.

Right there

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I recall an interview within the last year or so where SE mentioned that there's a limit to the number of attributes a piece of gear can have, and that most AF is already hitting that limit. I think the context of the comment was a question as to whether SE would consider altering existing AF to better reflect how the jobs are actually used today.

Anyone else remember reading this? I'm guessing that gear that already has a lot of attributes would be ineligible for augmenting because of this limitation.

[Gyotsha]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Anyone else remember reading this? I'm guessing that gear that already has a lot of attributes would be ineligible for augmenting because of this limitation.

I remember reading this as well. I think it was something like 4 stats boosts per of gear (Not entirely sure on this part), but look at kirin's osode for example. That obviously doesn't follow this restriction, so maybe it's not really that much of a restriction.

[Malacite]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

$10.00 says you either need "A Crystalline Prophecy" to get these or to get the best items to augment (doesn't affect me since I'm buying it either way)

and COOL BEANS! ^^ they added a new icon too to! SO now it's A/EX/R ?

[Ziero]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Yeah, or even +evasion to even out the -evasion. Haubergeon with 0 or + AGI.

Anyone who opts to add Eva or Agi to a haub over more Str/Dex/Att/Acc or anything remotely similar to those things should have said haub taken away from them. Unless Eva/Agi/othercrapDDstats are the only options, then there's no reason to pick them.

I remember reading this as well. I think it was something like 4 stats boosts per of gear (Not entirely sure on this part), but look at kirin's osode for example. That obviously doesn't follow this restriction, so maybe it's not really that much of a restriction.

It was limited stat types, not the stats themselves. I.E. you could have all the base stats, Acc/eva/Att/ratt/etc etc, all Ele resist and a Special stat on a piece of gear. Each stat was said to be under a certain category, but you could only have so many categories per piece of armor. From my understanding anyway

Edit:

$10.00 says you either need "A Crystalline Prophecy" to get these or to get the best items to augment (doesn't affect me since I'm buying it either way)

and COOL BEANS! ^^ they added a new icon too to! SO now it's A/EX/R ?

I would laugh if that were the case, it would be a very evil move by SE.

And don't forget Tmp!

[Feba]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

It was limited stat types, not the stats themselves. I.E. you could have all the base stats, Acc/eva/Att/ratt/etc etc, all Ele resist and a Special stat on a piece of gear. Each stat was said to be under a certain category, but you could only have so many categories per piece of armor. From my understanding anyway

IIRC, this was a UI limitation, right? I think there are pieces that have more than this in hidden effects.

[ospeff]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

The stat thing is BS, FFXI itemization is a random mess, there are no itemization rules, thats why some gear below level 30 is better than level 75 AF2. To even insinuate that SE has some kind of stat budget in place for items is assinine, they slap random shit on their items, it's like a computer generates it, not actual people.

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I remember reading this as well. I think it was something like 4 stats boosts per of gear (Not entirely sure on this part), but look at kirin's osode for example. That obviously doesn't follow this restriction, so maybe it's not really that much of a restriction.

I had thought the same thing, but with regard to gear like Errant Houppeland. I'm guessing that certain attribute types are saved in a combined field, provided they have the same magnitude. For instance, the four -7 stats may be grouped together, and the three +10 stats may be grouped together. Perhaps it is implemented in a fashion such that there is a 7 bit field representing flags for each of the 7 base attributes (STR, DEX, etc) which are then followed by some number of bits that represents the magnitude.

If that were the case, the game would see Errant Houppelande as having 4 "bonuses", and Kirin's Osode as having 3 of them.

[Durahansolo]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

Anyone who opts to add Eva or Agi to a haub over more Str/Dex/Att/Acc or anything remotely similar to those things should have said haub taken away from them. Unless Eva/Agi/othercrapDDstats are the only options, then there's no reason to pick them.

I was speaking as if those were the only possible changes to the item. Of course I'd want extra ACC, DEX, or STR. If you were able to add certain stats to Hauberk/Harubergeon/SH, the AH would probably crash the +1 version of each of those. You can't buy the augmented gear from a vendor or AH, but if peeps think that they can make a Hauberk 200kish better than a Hauberk+1 1M+ then of course they'd probably do it, and the market for Hauberk +1 would fail. (I just saved 800k by switching to Gecko)

[Caspian]

Re: Get More Malmage from Your Equipment with Augmented Items! (03/17/2009)

I was speaking as if those were the only possible changes to the item. Of course I'd want extra ACC, DEX, or STR. If you were able to add certain stats to Hauberk/Harubergeon/SH, the AH would probably crash the +1 version of each of those. You can't buy the augmented gear from a vendor or AH, but if peeps think that they can make a Hauberk 200kish better than a Hauberk+1 1M+ then of course they'd probably do it, and the market for Hauberk +1 would fail. (I just saved 800k by switching to Gecko)

Ofcourse if that were true, then you could buy the +1 and augment it into something even more powerful.


ospeff: Chill out, man. WoW by no means has the monopoly on customizing gear. As for FFXI itemization, while some of that holds true, it doesn't for other pieces. SH and Hauberk are just two examples of extremely well itemized pieces of gear. WoW has crappy itemization on some pieces too, everyone just calls them RP pieces and it makes it ok.