News Flash: Three New Expansion Scenarios Announced at Vana'diel Festival 2008! (11/2

[Nataka]

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why you should aways thing hard before making a character. If you want to be diffrent race, start over.

Yes, because starting over is that simple and a decision I made 4-5 years ago is still one I agree with.

I dont see what the big deal is. I'm a taru right now, a blm taru at that, and I wantto be a hume because I'm sick of being small and being punted around. IS that a godo enough reason to start over? No, but I'd be willing to spend 25 dollars on it.

[Aksannyi]

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I know it's not worth a whole lot but you can use a windower plugin called "Plastic Surgeon" and be whatever race you want. No one else can see it but you, but you'll still not have to look at a Taru anymore.

[Kailea]

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Yes, because starting over is that simple and a decision I made 4-5 years ago is still one I agree with.

I dont see what the big deal is. I'm a taru right now, a blm taru at that, and I wantto be a hume because I'm sick of being small and being punted around. IS that a godo enough reason to start over? No, but I'd be willing to spend 25 dollars on it.

the big deal? No MMO lets you change race like that, and none never should

Changing names, thats one thing, honestly dont think it should be done unless its offensive, but changing race? that's crossing the line -.-

[BurningPanther]

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why you should aways thing hard before making a character. If you want to be diffrent race, start over.

It always amazes me the shit people will take a liberal, progressive stance over, and then turn completely hard-ass and conservative about.

We beg for endless flowing rivers of new content, tirelessly campaign for convenient exp and leveling methods, and bitch for new gear at every turn. We're granted the ability to change jobs at the drop of a dime, and when everyone can level BLM or WAR and congregate in the same place, we know what can come of it.

... but the moment asks for race change, for no reason other than aesthetics, it's all "fuckyoumadeyourbednowlieinit."

You like to dis the Brady Guide to hell and beck, but still cling to the perceived importance of racial stats like it was a fucking guiding light.

Here you have a Tarutaru, a BLM main, which-if you're into the race/job pairing, is about as good as it gets-and they wanna change it--essentially gimp themselves(again, if you take stop in race/job pairings), simply for the sake of aesthetics. What the hell's wrong with that?

the big deal? No MMO lets you change race like that, and none never should

No MMO lets you change jobs either... oh, wait.

You're trying to tell me your only argument is... tradition?

Changing names, thats one thing, honestly dont think it should be done unless its offensive, but changing race? that's crossing the line -.-

I'm sorry, what? Name change has much bigger potential(which has been realized), for abuse, since you could just change names and jump servers to escape any foul play previously perpetrated. Race change wouldn't mean jack, because Sunrider as a Hume would still be Sunrider as an Elvaan, and the people around him wouldn't be fooled.

I say S-E could do well to un-tighten their asses about race change. If they were willing to allow Server Transfer--a vastly more game-changing concept--race change should be a simple matter.

[Kailea]

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It always amazes me the shit people will take a liberal, progressive stance over, and then turn completely hard-ass and conservative about.

We beg for endless flowing rivers of new content, tirelessly campaign for convenient exp and leveling methods, and bitch for new gear at every turn. We're granted the ability to change jobs at the drop of a dime, and when everyone can level BLM or WAR and congregate in the same place, we know what can come of it.

... but the moment asks for race change, for no reason other than aesthetics, it's all "fuckyoumadeyourbednowlieinit."

You like to dis the Brady Guide to hell and beck, but still cling to the perceived importance of racial stats like it was a fucking guiding light.

Here you have a Tarutaru, a BLM main, which-if you're into the race/job pairing, is about as good as it gets-and they wanna change it--essentially gimp themselves(again, if you take stop in race/job pairings), simply for the sake of aesthetics. What the hell's wrong with that?
No MMO lets you change jobs either... oh, wait.

You're trying to tell me your only argument is... tradition?
I'm sorry, what? Name change has much bigger potential(which has been realized), for abuse, since you could just change names and jump servers to escape and foul play previously perpetrated. Race change wouldn't mean jack, because Sunrider as a Hume would still be Sunrider as an Elvaan, and the people around him wouldn't be fooled.

I say S-E could do well to un-tighten their asses about race change. If they were willing to allow Server Transfer--a vastly more game-changing concept--race change should be a simple matter.

the hell you talking about...... for one I never cared about race/job combos, never believed in them myself.

I am against race changing, and name changing to a point (like I said should only happen if name is offensive), because of the whole RP aspect of the game.

I don't want to know a Taru for ever, only to have them be a Galka the next day -.-

Plus if you could do it, even if a fee was involved, you would have the people that believe in race/job combos asking people to change race based on the current job they are taking to 75 -.- .... stupid



anyway, back on topic, any new info, or will we have to wait for US fan for anything more?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I don't see the big need for race change, really. My basis isn't tradition or any of that, but rather that you can start a new character for a dollar and go from there.

Yeah, it means have to start all over. All the missions again.

Not as bad as you think if you play it right, because then you don't have to marginalize your gear choices as much as taking the all-in-one character approach that SE likes to hype about the game.

Only complaint I have about being a taru is that damn tall grass in ToA zones leaves me all claustrophobic. Let me turn off environmental and weather effects in the PS2 and 360 versions to fix that. Its a bit disorienting and kinda ridiculous that the PC version can turn this stuff off, but the other versions can't.

[Mhurron]

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Here you have a Tarutaru, a BLM main, which-if you're into the race/job pairing, is about as good as it gets-and they wanna change it--essentially gimp themselves(again, if you take stop in race/job pairings), simply for the sake of aesthetics. What the hell's wrong with that?

Oh no, I'm not that [insert name here]. I heard he was a Taru, I'm a Hume [insert name here].

[Nataka]

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And LOL at the in-game self-image. "People make fun of my character because he's short." Its just a game, people aren't really picking on you, just making light of the situation. If you're gonna get all self-conscious about having a short taru or a tall Elvaan female for a character, I don't want to know what you're dealing with in real life.

lol that was more of a joke reason than a real reason.

EDIT: THe real reason being what you said, I'm mainly sick of being short because it makes it very hard to see sometimes.

[Mhurron]

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Only complaint I have about being a taru is that damn tall grass in ToA zones leaves me all claustrophobic. Let me turn off environmental and weather effects in the PS2 and 360 versions to fix that.

Personally, I hide in the grass.

[BurningPanther]

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the hell you talking about...... for one I never cared about race/job combos, never believed in them myself.

I am against race changing, and name changing to a point, because of the whole RP aspect of the game.

That's hilarious. Okay, I want you to explain to me how job change doesn't completely fly in the face of role-play. You give me an in-game basis for why a BLU; dyed-in-the-wool, burgeoning power, doomed-to-be-consumed-by-it, can sweet-talk a Moogle to instantly become a PLD; holy defender, knight-of-the-crown, and I'll concede that role-play's presence means something.

I dont want to know a Taru for ever, only to have them be a Galka the next day -.-

Yeah, because that's totally your choice.

So my lady-friend should totally not cut her hair like she's been planning, because of the metal anguish it'd cause me for seeing someone I've known as one way for years suddenly changes? Please.

Plus if you could do it, even if a fee was involved, you would have the poelpe that believe in race/job combos asking people to change race based on the current job they are taking to 75 -.- .... stupid

It never dawned on you that there might be limitations on how often the feature might be allowed? Did you really expect people could change just every other day?

You're allowed a no-questions-asked item restoration from a GM, two times maximum.

Originally, server transfer was a one-time only option, for heavily congested servers. Even now, though more open than ever, the option is limited to 90-day intervals.

What makes you think a race change would be different?

Oh no, I'm not that [insert name here]. I heard he was a Taru, I'm a Hume [insert name here].

"Oh, what was a different [insert name here]. I own this account now. [Insert name here] is long gone."

Easy, without race or name change.

I don't see the big need for race change, really. My basis isn't tradition or any of that, but rather that you can start a new character for a dollar and go from there.

Yeah, it means have to start all over. All the missions again.

Not as bad as you think if you play it right, because then you don't have to marginalize your gear choices as much as taking the all-in-one character approach that SE likes to hype about the game.

Only complaint I have about being a taru is that damn tall grass in ToA zones leaves me all claustrophobic. Let me turn off environmental and weather effects in the PS2 and 360 versions to fix that. Its a bit disorienting and kinda ridiculous that the PC version can turn this stuff off, but the other versions can't.

None of the extra features we enjoy are particularly necessary, when you get right down to it. If that were the point, there's a lot of shit this game simply would not have.

Starting a character is always the old argument, but think about this for a moment. All your gear: Auction House and R/EX, all your crafts, including that one painstaking leveled to 100, every mission, every quest, admission requirements to every event that got them their gear... all back to square one.

I commend you for having leveled to well-geared characters, but for many who'd choose a race change it's not a matter of equipment optimization for a particular race, nor is there an interest in managing more than one character(outside of mules). For the many that are interested, it's simply an aesthetic choice. And not just one Plastic Surgeon will get around. If it were all about the illusion, I'd saunter around in full Homam just for my own pleasure... but it's hollow since I can't really share my enjoyment there.

[Armando]

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I don't want to know a Taru for ever, only to have them be a Galka the next day -.-

Right, because your feelings about your friend's character matter more than your friend's feelings about his own character.

Using RP reasons as an argument is dumb because server transfers break RP too. Did your friend travel to a parallel universe when he switched servers?

[Kailea]

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For one, job change is part of the games story, it's known that Moogles have the power to change your job class, but you are still the same character.

Look I stated why I think, race change (or name change for that matter) should be ever implemented into the game, if you dont like it fine, but I wont sit here and argue back and forth with you, over a stupid topic -.-
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Right, because your feelings about your friend's character matter more than your friend's feelings about his own character.

Using RP reasons as an argument is dumb because server transfers are break RP too. Did your friend travel to a parallel universe when he switched servers?

its not that it breaks RP, because yes, server change does, I am against all that, server change, name change, race change....

If your not happy with your character or server, guess what start over. If you don't want to start over, quit

while we are at it, yes I also hate it when people complain about RPing, or having to do this with others...... its an MMORPG people -.-

[BurningPanther]

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For one, job change is part of the games story, it's known that Moogles have the power to change your job class, but you are still the same character.

Look I stated why I think, race change (or name change for that matter) should be ever implemented into the game, if you dont like it fine, but I wont sit here and argue back and forth with you, over a stupid topic -.-

Moogle magic allowing job change still flies in the face of role-play. Having this corrosive power as a BLU is suddenly diluted if I suddenly change to a dedicated, consecrated-to-the-darkness DRK.

If it's such a stupid topic, you can't possibly mind simply letting people have what they want, including race change.

its not that it breaks RP, because yes, server change does, I am against all that, server change, name change, race change....

If your not happy with your character or server, guess what start over. If you don't want to start over, quit

while we are at it, yes I also hate it when people complain about RPing, or having to do this with others...... its an MMORPG people -.-

It's a wonder you've played this game as long as you have, since pretty much no one role-plays anything past level 5, with maybe only a handful of dedicated RP shells on varying servers. The popular consciousness centers itself around practicality, role-play has never really fit in.

It's pretty popular in WoW, though, you might wanna try that.

[Kailea]

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Moogle magic allowing job change still flies in the face of role-play. Having this corrosive power as a BLU is suddenly diluted if I suddenly change to a dedicated, consecrated-to-the-darkness DRK.

If it's such a stupid topic, you can't possibly mind simply letting people have what they want, including race change.

It's a wonder you've played this game as long as you have, since pretty much no one role-plays anything past level 5, with maybe only a handful of dedicated RP shells on varying servers. The popular consciousness centers itself around practicality, role-play has never really fit in.

It's pretty popular in WoW, though, you might wanna try that.

I have been playing since PC release, I sat down and though about my character before I made it, took me 3 days to think of name alone. I never once, nor will think to ever change my name or race. I light RP, dont do it all the time, but it is fun.

If I wanted to play WoW, I would be at the moment, but since that game is way to easy, I dont think so -.-

Yes this is a stupid argument, because people ask for it every damn update, and it gets annoying. If SE ever allowed for name/race change for a fee, I would be very disappointed.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Starting a character is always the old argument, but think about this for a moment. All your gear: Auction House and R/EX, all your crafts, including that one painstaking leveled to 100, every mission, every quest, admission requirements to every event that got them their gear... all back to square one.

I commend you for having leveled to well-geared characters, but for many who'd choose a race change it's not a matter of equipment optimization for a particular race, nor is there an interest in managing more than one character(outside of mules). For the many that are interested, it's simply an aesthetic choice. And not just one Plastic Surgeon will get around. If it were all about the illusion, I'd saunter around in full Homam just for my own pleasure... but it's hollow since I can't really share my enjoyment there.

I see it like this, not so much of an RP perspective as characters are like children I raise. It would cheapen the meaning I have given those characters if I could change who they are on whim.

You talk about sharing this aesthetic with others, but you have no concept of aestetics to start with. You have no attachment to you character, just what your character has and has done. If being the race you chose means nothing to you, what is it going to mean to others? They'll know you don't care.

If you have no ability to immerse yourself in the world in which you create your character, then you're better off not playing RPGs altogether. You don't have a care about the character, just what you're perceived as through it.

I know this is just a game and all, but I can't help but find that a little sad.

I mean, let's let the Mog House just change everything then. Race, what zone we exit out into, what gear we have. Screw missions, let's just skip around to any part we can. Let's ride the airships and chocobos from day one. Let's not have to work for endgame zone access.

Let's just make the whole thing a soulless venture.