≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

[Ellipses]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

Everyone still talking about skill-ups, how old are you, 14?

Please stop posting.

FTFY.

[Ameroth]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

But anywho, Armondo's solution was impractical because not leveling with your lv10 friends kind of negates the entire point of the Level Sync system.

No, choosing to exclusively level with players far below your own level is impractical. Party with your level 10 friends all you want; just don't cry over the skill-ups you cannot receive at that level. If you went 10 levels in campaign, you'd still have to go back and level your skills through another means.

SE is not barring you from accomplishing anything with this update. They are simply presenting another alternative on gaining exp. An alternative that requires compromise.

[Tripmastermonky]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

Then don't party with lower level people 10 levels straight. Duh.

Armando starts with the condescending attitude and I'm the one being called childish?

[Ameroth]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

It was sarcasm nub.

[Tripmastermonky]

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Did everyone eat a big bowl of PMS flakes this morning? I had one minor complaint about Level Synch, where I even said I kind of didn't like it, kind of, as in, no big deal, and everyone makes a bigger deal of it than I would've. I tried to end the argument like 5 posts ago but some of you seem to want to keep it going for whatever reason.

[endymionls]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

Okay, I think we've come to an understanding on the skillup part.

Let's get away from the nonconstructive insults please.

[Lmnop]

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Tripmaster, what's the point of this? Are you just trying to be an asshat?

Skills cannot be increased beyond the maximum value for the player's restricted level while Level Sync is in effect.

Had you read it correctly the first time, you wouldn't have had Armando have to tell you that there's nothing to worry about. Your level 10 friends won't stay level 10. Even if you continued to stay just as far ahead of them in levels (level 40 exping with level 10s), by the time they hit level 75, you'd still have level 75 skills.

Ziero nailed this -- Mountain out of a mole hill. Let it rest.

As for /facepalm:

If, after 2 hours, we still haven't figured it out... we get our toy taken away. Pop him again, try again. This is better than torturing ourselves for more than is legal to work in a single day.

More pop items used? So be it. I still have my toy. I just have to rent it.

[Malacite]

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So it looks like we get to fight Balraahn himself for the final part of the Mythic weapon quest! awesome! ^^


Also, Glanzfaust is utter fail... (as is BLU Relic wtf...)

Single-hit Critical WS... that better have 1 hell of a STR and/or TP mod to get used over Asuran or Final Heaven.

[eticket109]

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As for /facepalm:

If, after 2 hours, we still haven't figured it out... we get our toy taken away. Pop him again, try again. This is better than torturing ourselves for more than is legal to work in a single day.

More pop items used? So be it. I still have my toy. I just have to rent it.

Have you tried to get pop items for PW yet? I'm hoping they will ninja update the drop rate and make it at least reasonable.

[Tripmastermonky]

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Tripmaster, what's the point of this? Are you just trying to be an asshat?

What the fuck, seriously. How do I keep getting pegged as the bad guy? Reread the posts. I wasn't the one being a dick in the first place. I did read what SE said. All I said was that it would be nice to get some skill ups in a level sync party because your higher level is leveling up as well but not receiving skill ups. It was pointed out that my low level friends will, even though it'd take a very, very long time, eventually catch up and I accepted that as the compromise.

Can we PLEASE end this already?

[BurningPanther]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

Nice... I'm waiting to see if they buffed the old relic weapons like they hinted they would.

At the rate they're going, they won't have to.

The Atk/Acc/MAtk/MAcc and double attack properties of the Mythic weapons are only active int the Aftermath of the job-specific Weapon Skill. This means you can only get those effects after you build TP and Weapon Skill, and only using the specifically named Skills.

Relic weapons not only have higher base damage(with respect to their Mythic counterparts), but each carries an occasional 2x or 3x damage, before crits, to say nothing of the 20 Atk bonus on 1h weapons, and 20 Acc bonus on 2h. All this, regardless of Weapon Skill use.

[WishMaster3K]

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I still have my toy. I just have to rent it.

Oh I GET THE ANALOGY NOW.

Lord, I'm such an idiot.

[Ziero]

Re: ≪Sep. 9, 2008 (JST) Update Details≫

Did everyone eat a big bowl of PMS flakes this morning? I had one minor complaint about Level Synch, where I even said I kind of didn't like it, kind of, as in, no big deal, and everyone makes a bigger deal of it than I would've. I tried to end the argument like 5 posts ago but some of you seem to want to keep it going for whatever reason.

Insulting everyone because you couldn't understand the update info isn't exactly a good way to end something now is it?

As for /facepalm:

If, after 2 hours, we still haven't figured it out... we get our toy taken away. Pop him again, try again. This is better than torturing ourselves for more than is legal to work in a single day.

More pop items used? So be it. I still have my toy. I just have to rent it.

From my understanding, it's a total pita to get JoL Pop stuff and an even bigger whore to get PWs pop. Even if they made the tier 4 ZNM mobs drop 100%, that's still a lot of work for a two hour chance at the beast.

Unless they completely and utterly bitch slapped those two with the nerf bat...which I really hope they didn't.

[Malacite]

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Wish... that sig is AWESOME! SSJ Phelps ftw!

[Tripmastermonky]

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Insulting everyone because you couldn't understand the update info isn't exactly a good way to end something now is it?

I will if they insult me for no good reason. Honestly, Ziero, I don't want to drag this on any further, but you're not helping things. I did understand the update info, that's how the whole thing started, the fact that you don't get skill ups. I'm getting really tired of defending myself. Taskmage was the only one giving sensible alternatives to the situation I described. Armando gave solutions, but not to the problem I was describing so that only complicated things further. The only time he gave good advice was when he repeated what Taskmage said. I'm seriously done with this unless someone plans on keeping it going.