New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

[Luna]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

All I can remember is stuff being underwhelming really, like chocobo raising and races, but truthfully I can't say there's many situations where that happened.

And I agree, as Grizz asked, I have been playing 5+ years now, really I have lost count lol. I have seen the game grow up so much since then and not once was I ever disappointed in SE's actions or what they release. Hell they have made more improvements to the game than I can say for most MMO companies. That is what I was trying to get at. SE always delivers.

[Ziero]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

I would hope to think that level 75 equipment should be better than regular equipment at lower levels. I mean the person did spend time and play longer and harder than their friends that are barely starting out. It would give incentive to the newbie to play longer, and better and inspire them to stay to see what they can accomplish.

I thought that was the whole point when you play with your friends. So that you can inspire them to join you and be as good or better than you. To keep improving and never stop.

The whole point of playing with friends is to play with friends. If you're lvl capped you're not going to be inspiring anyone because you won't be that much stronger then anyone. And it's clear that SE wants people who are using lvl appropriate gear to have the advantage so the high lvls don't dominate the low lvls like they do the high ones. Dunes crabs and Jungle mandies are squishy enough as is, imagine what would happen if a full haste gear Nin got to them.

It didnt say it was removed completely it said enhancments were removed completley In my mind that is +Skill, + Sword Spell Damage. Although the whole Idea is to make gear comparable to that level. So I could see it being removed, een if it wasn't I would not want to be the 75 DRK who goes to party in haste gear at that level only to get his clock cleaned from swinging so much.

But speculating leads to needless arguements best just to wait and see. If the stuff like haste and joyeuse ocaisionally attacks twice Istays I will not leave level 35-40 parties, my 16% haste and being a RDM will love being the top DD there.

Except it didn't say enhancements, it said Enchantments, you know the charged abilities? It also mentioned "special properties" meaning things like haste, Dmg % reduc, and especially Multi-attacks. Basically, the super high end "zomguberkewl" 75 gear won't be the best gear at synched/capped lvls.

One thing that others haven't mentioned (I don't think they have, at least) that I'd really like to see with the advent of this is being able to LFP under multiple levels. For example, when going LFP, if you could put in the level range you're looking for a party in (like you do when you're searching for a party member) as 50-75 and then, if someone does a /sea for WHM 50-55 , you still come up in that search even though you're not currently level synced, because you're lfp in that level range.

There will be no need to limit your search by lvl anymore, just /sea all invite Whm and you'll get everyone who's seeking. And if no one is near your lvl, you just go up the list.

All I can remember is stuff being underwhelming really, like chocobo raising and races, but truthfully I can't say there's many situations where that happened.

Honestly, Choco raising/racing in and of itself doesn't seem that bad, it's just that it takes longer then anyone wants to bother with to get a champion racer and the rewards seem minimal. Which is a total shame because it really is a good system and it would be nice if the Circuit had some life in it. That used to be a decent money maker if you bet small amounts on favored birds. But ever since that last update, the numbers mean jack and the long shots always seem to win. =(

[Armando]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

If you're lvl capped you're not going to be inspiring anyone because you won't be that much stronger then anyone.

Not completely true. I've impressed friends who'd never seen a good DD PLD tank. I bet I could impress a lot of people who've never known the beauties of Shield Break and Acid Bolts as well.

[Ziero]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

Well that's more a skill thing then being in higher lvl gear.

[Balfree]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

I still expect a lv75 PLD to die horribly at the jaws of a Beach Pugil and going "WTF".

[Feba]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

I still expect a lv75 PLD to die horribly at the jaws of a Beach Pugil and going "WTF".

first person to post a video of this happening to a douchy PLD wins an internet. There would be bonus points for getting it on VOIP, but they're negated by the points subtraction for having douchy PLDs in your LS.

[Lmnop]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

Having level 75 gear be better than all other gear, even when capped, would probably be a very bad idea.

Consider: level 26 party, getting ready to fight mandies or whatever.
"We need one more DD. There's a RNG and a WAR seeking."
"No, we want a 75. Can you guys ask your LSs if any friends want to come out with 75 jobs and fight mandies?"

Having 75s being automatically better than the people actually of that level does nothing to alleviate the problems of the low- and mid-level players being able to get groups together.

The counterargument here would be "good luck convincing a 75 to come fight mandies and get chased by goblins again".

To which there are 2 simple responses. 1) people like me who plan on using this feature a lot just for kicks, and because I do want to level with my bro who still isn't 75. 2) you've basically made another form of PL. Make sure 1-2 of your party members are pimping 75 gear, and your party gets an effective level boost. Similar to having a 7th party member.

oh that..... big freaking whoop your capped at the level your fighting at, if your not capped at the next bam skill-ups I don't understand your overall concern. I leveled my sword and dagger to 250 in a week fom 135/100 Hi 2 U skill up parties.

Hi. You know everything.

Imagine being a DRK. Go skill up something with 500+ delay w/out a multi hit or awesome haste gear (because you just got high level and haven't been able to do any of the work to obtain good gear yet).

Oh, not to mention that with jobs like WAR or DRK, you're not exactly Mr. Red Mage when it comes to solo.

Please, open your mind to the rest of the game instead of just your little RDM-Power bubble.

[Grizzlebeard]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

I still expect a lv75 PLD to die horribly at the jaws of a Beach Pugil and going "WTF".

Guarantee a few die at the "hands" of a Bogy.

[Celeal]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

Guarantee a few die at the "hands" of a Bogy.

And after KO-ed, woke up as level 75.... for revenge

[Aksannyi]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

I still expect a lv75 PLD to die horribly at the jaws of a Beach Pugil and going "WTF".

Even better if he has an Aegis.

[Balfree]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

Even better if he has an Aegis.

I am Aegis, the impervious shield of everlas*BAMF POW WHAM SCREWDRIVER*...

[Feba]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

guys stop talking about aegis. I've been grinding enough in The Answer. It's not my fault it's hard mode!

[Aksannyi]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

I am Aegis, the impervious shield of everlas*BAMF POW WHAM SCREWDRIVER*...

Oh fuck you, I almost fell off the bed.

[Jayram]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

Hi, long time reader, first time poster.

I think the thing that excites me most about this is the ability to jump to certain points when classes were at their most powerful. The ability to play BLU at level 22 duo in Korroloka and just bludgeon worms over and over, or a RDM at 41 when Refresh is at its best point (in terms of its relationship to the size of mana pools), etc.

I think we'll see some classes latching onto certain minimum levels. Like, a SAM probably won't voluntarily cap lower than Meditate, a ninja won't voluntarily cap below 37 for Utsu: Ni, a PLD for Flash, etc. Will be interesting to see the dynamic.

[TheGrandMom]

Re: New Level Sync Feature to Change the Way You Party! (08/25/2008)

All this complaining....... has SE really done anything wrong to what they say they are going to do? or are most of you jumping on the "OMG SE WILL SCREW THIS UP" bandwagon. Thats what it seems like to me.

1. If you are worried about skill ups, say NO! thats all you have to do is say no..... how hard can that be?

2. You are not the most important person in the game, I am sure that over the 200-300 people lfp or not lfp as whm,brd,cor,blu etc. that your name is going to be targeted first all the time.

3. If you do end up getting bothered, then just go /anon thats what it is there for after all, or start filling up your blist. But I dont think any of these reasons are good enough to say SE's idea is bad in the least. Nore is it good enough to belittle it in anyway.

Just stop being so picky, and start looking at it in a positive way believe me it does you a lot of good. Also saves a lot on the bitching department. SE cannot control what other's do. The actions of the players are not what makes an idea or implement of SE's into the game bad.

IMO: I think this is a wonderful edition and should have been added sooner. It has great potential and will help any new player lvl faster by far, allowing newer people to not turn their nose to the game so quickly. Before FFXI was just a game for those who started on it as a first MMO. Most people who transferred over would instantly be turned off compared to how hard it is to other MMO's out there. To get a party, to lvl at a decent rate, etc. This was something other MMO's had that made them instantly better in other ppl's eyes. Now SE is introducing it, just prepare for the world of difference it is going to make.

Actually the majority of this thread has been discussion on how great this change is going to be.

Imagine being a DRK. Go skill up something with 500+ delay w/out a multi hit or awesome haste gear (because you just got high level and haven't been able to do any of the work to obtain good gear yet).

Hello to me! LOL I leveled my drk back in the old days when great sword wasn't that big of a deal, it was scythe all the way. Then low and behold when I was level 60+ people started going "Oh we only want great sword drks!" because they wanted a light sc. Skilling up great sword when you are higher level blows chunks. Ya those first levels go swiftly but when it starts slowing down.....its sloooooooooooow. In fact, I still don't have my gs capped and I wish I did because I prefer gs.

Oh fuck you, I almost fell off the bed.

DITTO!

Hi, long time reader, first time poster.

I think the thing that excites me most about this is the ability to jump to certain points when classes were at their most powerful. The ability to play BLU at level 22 duo in Korroloka and just bludgeon worms over and over, or a RDM at 41 when Refresh is at its best point (in terms of its relationship to the size of mana pools), etc.

I think we'll see some classes latching onto certain minimum levels. Like, a SAM probably won't voluntarily cap lower than Meditate, a ninja won't voluntarily cap below 37 for Utsu: Ni, a PLD for Flash, etc. Will be interesting to see the dynamic.

Yep thats a very good point! I am interested to see this myself. And Hi and welcome to the forums! LOL