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  • Re: Update Details

    Originally posted by Feba View Post
    You are bringing an risk to yourself, as a mage, by casting sleep. That hate can get you killed; and if your party is relying on you for support they will die as well. It's not unnecessary, though, because the ALTERNATIVE of NOT sleeping it and it killing your party is higher.

    Likewise, if you're in a bad situation, projecting Bahamut could be the difference between living and wiping. And hey, if Bahamut flips out and kills you, it's not a huge deal because you were probably going to die anyway. Somewhat like when a SMN burns through Astral Flow to try to kill something; if it doesn't die they're out of MP and pretty much screwed. On the other hand, the chance of Astral Flow saving the day is good compared to the alternative of it getting you killed.
    After 70 if your astral flowing you are doing it wrong.
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      id put my money on a mage sleeping something than a smn saving the day.
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        yep.

        It's not made to be something you'd use at the first sign of trouble. It's a wild card that you pull out when you're already in deep shit.

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          footwork is a disappointment.

          i bet the emergency maintenance today is going to fix the tp return on asuran fist+footwork.

          moar taru edit: zomg at sandworm swallowing you up and taking you to a new battlefield...
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          • Re: Update Details

            Originally posted by Omni View Post
            footwork is a disappointment.

            i bet the emergency maintenance today is going to fix the tp return on asuran fist+footwork.
            Or the sneak attack working from the front.

            And smn astral flow is always wrong post 70, it doesn't out damage the 70 bps
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            • Re: Update Details

              Originally posted by Sevv View Post
              And smn astral flow is always wrong post 70, it doesn't out damage the 70 bps
              Now, now, Feba can't be expected to know these things.
              I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are.

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                Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                Now, now, Feba can't be expected to know these things.
                Feba quit pre level cap being 70?
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                  AFAIK he quit before reaching 75. He's been arguing things here he couldn't possibly have any experience with.
                  I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are.

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                    Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                    AFAIK he quit before reaching 75. He's been arguing things here he couldn't possibly have any experience with.
                    You make it sound like he only does it in this thread...
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                    • Re: Update Details

                      Sevv, I wasn't exclusively referring to 70+. There's about 69 other levels out there, might want to try them sometime. Note I didn't even disagree with you on the BPs being better.


                      Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                      He's been arguing things here he couldn't possibly have any experience with.
                      And you're arguing about people here you couldn't possible have played with. What's the difference?

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                      • Re: Update Details

                        Originally posted by Feba View Post
                        Sevv, I wasn't exclusively referring to 70+. There's about 69 other levels out there, might want to try them sometime.




                        And you're arguing about people here you couldn't possible have played with. What's the difference?
                        There is 69 levels before that... and smns are healing those 69 levels.

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                        • Re: Update Details

                          I think Sevv has tried lvls 1-69 about 6 times from what I can see in his sig... but hey, what does he know.
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                            To be fair, there is MORE than ample imformation to know exactly what goes on in the end-level scene.

                            Even if Feba never read a wiki article about anything having to do with anything post 70, BBQ complains about it enough, and Sevv makes enough off-collar references for him to have a general idea.

                            IE, I've never been to a Kings camp, but I know what it's like there.

                            Oh my God, I just defended Feba.

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                              Where's the slap button when you need one...

                              j/k i heart wishie
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                              • Re: Update Details

                                Originally posted by Sevv View Post
                                There is 69 levels before that... and smns are healing those 69 levels.
                                Yeah, but emergencies, by their nature, are abnormalities. As a DRG, I didn't have very many parties after 30 or so where I tanked, but of course I would provoke off the mages in an emergency. Even when I was playing support BLM, I would nuke like hell if I needed to kill something dead. It's rare, and it's outside the normal role, but you have to do what you have to do to survive sometimes.

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