8-27 Update!

[Brayden]

Re: 8-27 Update!

I still beleive /sam will be an optimal sub for drk even with this new boost. Granted, it requires perhaps more finess when playing than /nin but I think that's what makes a good drk stand out.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: 8-27 Update!

Yeah, having a Hauby and a GreatSword might not completely suck now. But I'm still not going to raise that skill until I'm 60.

And I retract my statement about MNK, because yes, that's all they can do: hit stuff.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: 8-27 Update!

I guess this means 1H weapon-users will always be considered second-rate at dealing damage from here on in . . . with or without Dual-Wield . . .

-_-;

EDIT:

The /translate function does require you to be able to correctly spell/type it in English in the first place, so it's going to be largely unusable for the majority of players. >.>

Epic win.

[Omni]

Re: 8-27 Update!

well u got your nerf you wanted.

http://killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=159926

they fucked around with the pdif's for 2h and they're insane now.

[Mhurron]

Re: 8-27 Update!

Isn't that usually called a boost.

[Sevv]

Re: 8-27 Update!

Isn't that usually called a boost.

It would be called a boost if they didn't cap 1h/dw damage

[Cometgreen]

Re: 8-27 Update!

/cry

I wish I had already lvled DRG. And that I had access to the game. SE will probably tone down the buffs by the time I get back online.

[WishMaster3K]

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What's up with the 1h Adjustment? I'm confused.

[Sevv]

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/cry
I wish I had already lvled DRG. And that I had access to the game. SE will probably tone down the buffs by the time I get back online.

HAHAHA I WIN! Drg75 >.> now just to buy gear again.

What's up with the 1h Adjustment? I'm confused.

With 1h and 2h running on different systems the overall potential is much lower.

You know there is an acc soft cap right or should I say was. gaxe wars are parsing well over 97% w/o food...

[Armando]

Re: 8-27 Update!

As I expected, the MNKs were just jumping the gun. PDIF got changed not just for two-handers, but non-two-handers as well.

Before, capped attack
Min PDIF: 1.6 (2.6 on crits)
Max PDIF: 2.4 (3.0 on crits)

Now
Min PDIF: 2.0 (3.0 on crits)
Max PDIF: 2.0 (3.0 on crits)

They were expecting their max damage to be (DMG + fSTR) * 2.4, but when their max turned out to be (DMG + fSTR) * 2.0 they quickly assumed they got nerfed.

EDIT:
Disclaimer: This is info I've gathered from threads, I have not personally gone on my character smacking around Too Weak mobs to witness myself always hit with 2.0 PDIF. The screenshots I saw are enough for me though.

[Lmnop]

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Mnks should be nerfed so they can be buffed. I want more jobs to be more stressful. Playing a Monk should be at least half as hard as playing a support job. Even the easy ones.

If they can do more than "Just punch" then maybe they'd be cool for more situations, neh?

btw, this post had lots of cool stuff that I quoted from discussions from Armando. But he beat me to it, so I deleted it all. You guys are left with the silly afterthought of my post. Blame Armando.

[711rocks]

Re: 8-27 Update!

Anyone who merits in the next few days, please cheer me up by posting pics of your PT members still eating sushi.

[Necropolis]

Re: 8-27 Update!

From what some friends were parsing in game from just a war perspective:

Ridill/Joy > Man/Ridill > Gaxe > Man/jugg

No bard or anything, but I'd hardly say dual-wield is dead. The Gaxe only marginally out preformed the man/jugg combo. I guess I'll be running more parses during exp and see if 2-handers are just broken now, or just merely equivilant to former dual wielders.

Will making meripo parties easier to do, don't have to wait for camp to open and 3 wars to pop if I wanna burn. Drk, Drg, and sam it appears at the moment to be very capable DDs on par with mnk and war now.

Curious though, as 2 handers were suppose to have an advantage on higher defense mobs (i.e. not colibri), yet we're seeing big boost in ws numbers. Even gimpy staff on my whm is hitting a lot harder. Wonder what this means at king camps and other endgame things...like dynamis ..and limbus...and and and...

Wow, lots of numbers to digest, back to work.

[Sevv]

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Other numbers have shown this Overall colbiri are far from a good mob to use.

War/Sam Gaxe > Man/ridill > Man/Joy


Oh and to add

R.I.P Thief

[711rocks]

Re: 8-27 Update!

From what some friends were parsing in game from just a war perspective:
Ridill/Joy > Man/Ridill > Gaxe > Man/jugg
No bard or anything, but I'd hardly say dual-wield is dead. The Gaxe only marginally out preformed the man/jugg combo. I guess I'll be running more parses during exp and see if 2-handers are just broken now, or just merely equivilant to former dual wielders.
Will making meripo parties easier to do, don't have to wait for camp to open and 3 wars to pop if I wanna burn. Drk, Drg, and sam it appears at the moment to be very capable DDs on par with mnk and war now.
Curious though, as 2 handers were suppose to have an advantage on higher defense mobs (i.e. not colibri), yet we're seeing big boost in ws numbers. Even gimpy staff on my whm is hitting a lot harder. Wonder what this means at king camps and other endgame things...like dynamis ..and limbus...and and and...
Wow, lots of numbers to digest, back to work.

Yeah but they always fucking were, people are just stupid. 90% of wars all suck ass, 8% had gaxe leveled for gods, and the other 2% had ridills and raped everything. Sams, drgs, drks, thfs, could all merit just fine if the player had nice gear and knew wtf they were doing. I've had pts where I outparsed 3 wars and im a thf, and it was because half the wars in the world could not do crap for damage w/o a brd to save their ass. Whoever got mad at me insulting drain tp earlier in this thread has never leveled with any decently geared drk or something-because drks who can hit with good acc and eat att food tear ass through anything ppl merit on. I was mad about the fact that all the idiot melees who wear dex rings 24/7 and af body all damn day suddenly shit on my face.

Sorry I kept swearing but im kind of annoyed at how some people are blind to how ridiculous it is that base dex is +60 acc or w/e to all of these jobs out of nowhere.