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  • #166
    Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

    Originally posted by Kuro View Post
    Quoted for Hilarity?
    Try again 2 more chance left to win those chaps!
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    • #167
      Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

      Originally posted by SevIfrit View Post
      This is how most things in the game work magic, nms, rank, jailers, abilities >.>!
      For stuff that the game already has, it's understandable. And as a counter, the game also does it the opposite way with other things. For example, in conquest, the best nation is #1, and the worst nation is #3.

      But for stuff that players come up with on their own, I can see how it can lead to confusion.

      For instance, with crafting, some people use the terminology Tier 0, Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3 to describe the 4 major HQ tiers. I prefer the terminology Tier 0, Tier 11, Tier 31 and Tier 51, as those terms more clearly indicate what is being referred to.
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      • #168
        Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

        It can go either way as long as people know what the max is.
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        • #169
          Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

          Quoted for homosexuality?
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          • #170
            Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

            Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
            QFH

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            Figure out what the "H" means and you'll win some ass-less Chaps.
            QFPCP1.
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            • #171
              Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

              Originally posted by Kuro View Post
              Quoted for homosexuality?

              please see wish master for your prize!
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              • #172
                Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                >:-] I kan't WAIT to see Kuro in those!



                Oh yeah. FTW.
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                • #173
                  Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                  Wow he looks so ugly from behind.
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                  • #174
                    Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                    Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
                    >:-] I kan't WAIT to see Kuro in those!

                    Oh yeah. FTW.
                    I think I threw up a little in my mouth.
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                    • #175
                      Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                      Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                      Pardon me for asking, but just who is the asshat that spent the time to go through and rate each DD and place them in tiers? "SAM is, at best, at top of the Tier II DDs"
                      Really, who comes up with this shit?
                      I'd like to show them the sun, maybe show them where to meet women and then take them into a dark alley and beat them senseless.
                      Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                      Yeah, that's what's rather baffling about calling them a "Tier II DD." I've had contests with SAM/RNGs before and while they didn't really catch my RNG, they could get close. That says quite a lot seeing as they're a couple ratings lower on Archery than RNG is.
                      Originally posted by LyonheartLakshmi View Post
                      Tier 2 would be higher than Tier 1? Strange, I would have thought Tier 1 would be higher. As in, 1 is the "top" tier, or that it's first place.
                      I guess that shows how different people have different perspectives.
                      addressing it all in no particular order: tier 1 as top tier, tier 2 as next, tier 3 and so on down. all comments meant in context of level 74+ and meripo. in exp before that sam is easily tier 1 (they fall behind because their weaponskills stop improving after level 60 and most of the damage advantage they enjoy at this point is due to weaponskills and not per hit damage - the update may hopefully change this - because in general 2 handed weapons do not have the kind of stat bonuses, nor fstr doubling effect of 2 good one-handed weapons dual-wielded)

                      in endgame activities SAM is one of the strongest and most versatile DD yes. I should've clarified what context I was in; (because soboro was mentioned I was excluding activities such as sky gods where taking out your soboro is just *dumb*.)

                      as for asshat; I was under the impression that the tiers for merit parties were pretty well understood and general knowledge at this point?

                      I mean, seriously. who can outparse an S/P or P/U ninja in 15% double attack 22% haste and 35% dualwield, a monk with 25% haste and a pair of destroyers that parse better than some relics or a warrior with 1.3k rampages, three major DD JA's, 22% haste, 20% double attack *and* 20% dualwield, versus mobs that aren't inherently weak to any particular weapon type? (I realize that a ranger can absolutely destroy colibri, haven't seen one even come close to a good BB/destroyers monk on mamool)

                      it pretty much takes a relic for most other jobs, and in some cases not even then. (lolragnarok) sam is strong as hell in merit; the gap in 2 handed weapons is too much to overcome currently.


                      this is of course, why SE is making adjustments to 2handed weapons in the first place, because jobs like dark knight and samurai *shouldn't* be clearly less powerful in merit situations; especially when compared to a tank job (ninja).
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                      • #176
                        Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                        do we need to start putting <nsfw> tags on our posts?

                        I don't really think a pimped out Soboro sam/rng is actually broken... well maybe, but not compared to Ridill WARs. But I think that if we had a grip that gave you 30% extra tp/swing, then we'd have some issues.

                        Then again, I'd love to see a Double Attack 10% Grip. It'd stack with jailer weapons, still. But meh. 2A +5%, Critical hit rate +5%, Store TP +5... I wouldn't complain.
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                        • #177
                          Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                          Never mind this post.
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                          Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
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                          • #178
                            Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                            BTW for true NSFW FFXI pictures, You need pictures of Grommet (Ragnarok server)




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                            • #179
                              Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                              Thank you Kuro. I forgot to mention that I'm allergic to Beefcake. -_-
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                              • #180
                                Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                                So am I, but Grompa is so wonderous
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