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  • #91
    Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

    Originally posted by Lmnop View Post
    And if you're going to say that dual axes is more precise to fight with, I'll say that a great axe at full swing has such significant reach and built up momentum as to make it very hard to avoid. See? You're already getting better at this "roleplaying" thing!
    -throws sand in lmnops eye- HAHA Blind stuck!!!
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    Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
    Lol. {True Strike}.
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    • #92
      Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

      Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
      It's not out side the realm of possibility that they are 50/55+ items, after all there is nothing like the elemental staves before 51. Since 51 is a turning point for many things in the game, adding something that could potentially be big at that level does make sense.
      Not to mention that 2handers don't really start to lag until the 50s anyway. That's when most parties move on to TP burn fodder in ToAU, Dual Wield II kicks in for those subbing NIN, and when Rampage comes into the picture. Before the 50s, 2 handed weapons compete just fine against even dual wielded 1 handed weapons.
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      • #93
        Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

        That doesn't mean they shouldn't make lower level grips though. They would just have a weaker effect being low level and all.

        Fact is GAX just dominates from level 5 right up to the late 40's. Shield Break, Sturmwind and on occasion Armor Break are just that good. That's what pisses me off; GAX has such an amazing edge for the 1st half of the game, then tapers off horribly (at least in EXP/Merits)
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        • #94
          Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

          Originally posted by Malacite View Post
          That doesn't mean they shouldn't make lower level grips though. They would just have a weaker effect being low level and all.
          Fact is GAX just dominates from level 5 right up to the late 40's. Shield Break, Sturmwind and on occasion Armor Break are just that good. That's what pisses me off; GAX has such an amazing edge for the 1st half of the game, then tapers off horribly (at least in EXP/Merits)
          Which lends more to the argument that they are not needed until level 50.

          Now you could probably make just as good an argument to have a haste or TP bonus trait on a grip before 50 as well. I'm not going to say either way that they will or will not be available at any level, I was just saying that having items as strategy changing as these could be only available 50+ would not be without president.
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          • #95
            Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

            Just because one weapon rocks hard for that long doesn't mean they shouldn't make low level grips, especially when most WAR are too stupid to even look at GAX.
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            • #96
              Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

              Originally posted by Malacite View Post
              most WAR are too stupid to even look at GAX.
              An item won't change that.
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              • #97
                Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                I'm in the "Wait and See" Camp here, but I can't high my excitement at this potential.

                Even if it sucks at the beginning, with this addition to the system it leaves the door open for improvements all around. 2handers now have access to a slot that meant nothing to them now.

                Wishmaster had it right, this is defiantly a step in the right direction.

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                • #98
                  Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                  Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post

                  I just hope SE has some -% Delay Grips that stack to Ranged Weapons,
                  Man I hope so, we RNGs need some Haste love too. Only time we get Haste is with Merits, and that's only 6% Haste equivalent. >.>




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                  • #99
                    Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                    Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                    An item won't change that.

                    No, but word of mouth will and hopefully some people actually bother to look at these updates.



                    >.> Dymlos just made me think of 2 awesome things I'd like to see SE finally do (though it would hurt COR somewhat)

                    - Make haste and slow affect ranged attacks.
                    - Allow magic to work on pets.
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                    • Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                      Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                      No, but word of mouth will and hopefully some people actually bother to look at these updates.
                      >.> Dymlos just made me think of 2 awesome things I'd like to see SE finally do (though it would hurt COR somewhat)
                      - Make haste and slow affect ranged attacks.
                      - Allow magic to work on pets.
                      I just had a thought about those ideas no disrespect meant
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                      • Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                        I am very happy with the update so far ^^ all I said was that it sparked ideas in my head is all.
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                        • Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                          Originally posted by SevIfrit View Post
                          I just had a thought about those ideas no disrespect meant
                          - Be happy with an update before wanting more.
                          I prefer suspicious optimism. Just because we get an update doesn't mean it's any good.

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                          • Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                            I prefer suspicious optimism. Just because we get an update doesn't mean it's any good.
                            Granted, but in this case, opening up an entirely new equipment slot can't bear much negative.

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                            • Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                              Originally posted by SevIfrit View Post
                              -throws sand in lmnops eye- HAHA Blind stuck!!!
                              -watchs as lmnop hits a shadow- Missed me hahaha!!!!
                              -watchs as lmnop cuts his whm in half- Hory Shit it really does cut people in half.



                              =D how you been aksannyi, I need a new quote for my sig to top your homie quote.
                              Fine, been busy as shit though. Spent about 3 days straight leveling WHM from 43 to 50. New quote, huh? I'm not terribly creative right now so I'll have to get back to you Sev.
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                              • Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

                                It'd be my expectation that *if* there were lower level grips, it'd be something like att+3 or 5, acc+2 or 3, something like that on it, later on in the 50+ range I could see the bonuses being more like +7-10 att, +5ish acc, something like that. Not to mention the +parry/evade/counter mods they could do, or the enhances job ability/trait X.

                                and now....

                                /prays they aren't like 1mil+ items orz


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