Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Mhurron, your sex pet Feba always reminds the forum to never bring "logic" into a FFXI Discussion, because you'll just confuse yourself.

For shame.

[Mhurron]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Except if you're swinging at a mad, super-regenerative sheep with unnatural toughness, the goal is to make each swing count for more. Not like you have to worry about 'parry and riposte.' Just cleave it far enough that it'll feel it.

Just talking about the part you quoted, When was the last time you came across a sheep in a field that had any regen, let alone a monster regen?

never bring "logic" into a FFXI Discussion, because you'll just confuse yourself.

What I said was pretty straight forward, and was simply disagreeing with the statement that a huge axe should cut you in half.

[Malacite]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Last time I used my WAR (and I was fairly decked out far as I was concerned: Berserker's Axe, Bomb Core, Amemit Mantle +1, Spiked Finger Gauntlets etc) I would be lucky to break 400 damage on Raging Rush even if all 3 hits connected (and I have 4 double attack merits and 4 crit) while rampage would go anywhere from 400-1200 (I have no idea why i could never get consistent numbers on that damn WS even with proper gear and food)

Raging Rush most of the time would hit 2-3 times for me, 4 if I was lucky. Meanwhile, I would normally rampage for 6-8 (usually 8) hits. There is a huge discrepancy there, and I'm glad SE is finally doing something about it.


And I know that Steel Cyclone is good for HNMs, but I want to use GAX in merits too ; ;

[Lmnop]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Just talking about the part you quoted, When was the last time you came across a sheep in a field that had any regen, let alone a monster regen?

Roleplay, fool. How else do you justify any mob that can live through several swings from any bladed weapon? To some degree, their wounds quickly seal and damaged muscle tissue can continue to function. Or... something.

[Mhurron]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Wish, this is where you come in and mention logic in the discussion makes no sense.

How else do you justify any mob that can live through several swings from any bladed weapon?

It's just a game, that's how I justify it.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

See what just happened there? You guys confused me.

[Sevv]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Roleplay, fool. How else do you justify any mob that can live through several swings from any bladed weapon? To some degree, their wounds quickly seal and damaged muscle tissue can continue to function. Or... something.

I can explain the blades are super dull so it takes 3 min for you to kill your enemy =D

[Jarre]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

So is it just going to be for lvl 55 +, what about the lower levels? will their be lower level grips to help?

[nanatsu]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

What I said was pretty straight forward, and was simply disagreeing with the statement that a huge axe should cut you in half.

Well it was more of a joke than anything else. :p Tho I did try to make a point about the damage numbers not adding up. Hit for hit, Raging Rush should be closer to Rampage in damage, but it's not. This is due to crit mods on ws and axe bonuses and all sorts of goodies. It's the crit mod on rampage tho that puts that ws on a level higher than Raging Rush. Any multihit ws with a crit modifier wins and wins hard.

[WishMaster3K]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Well it was more of a joke than anything else. :p Tho I did try to make a point about the damage numbers not adding up. Hit for hit, Raging Rush should be closer to Rampage in damage, but it's not. This is due to crit mods on ws and axe bonuses and all sorts of goodies. It's the crit mod on rampage tho that puts that ws on a level higher than Raging Rush. Any multihit ws with a crit modifier wins and wins hard.

FTFY

[Sevv]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

So is it just going to be for lvl 55 +, what about the lower levels? will their be lower level grips to help?

Dunno until update 55 is just the level we use because it is ss'd

[Mhurron]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

So is it just going to be for lvl 55 +, what about the lower levels? will their be lower level grips to help?

It's not out side the realm of possibility that they are 50/55+ items, after all there is nothing like the elemental staves before 51. Since 51 is a turning point for many things in the game, adding something that could potentially be big at that level does make sense.

[Lmnop]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Like I mentioned earlier... I'm hoping this helps low level DRK WSs a lot.

"It's just a game" Isn't always the ideal answer for justification, btw. I don't fight with PBJs (yet), despite how much I've been spamming the request to S-E. The planet isn't mysteriously void of gravity, most intelligent creatures walk on 2 legs, and the San d'Orian knights don't fly in hover cars.

Point is, there's a rationale to these things. And I just happen to enjoy thinking about that rationality. And if you're going to say that dual axes is more precise to fight with, I'll say that a great axe at full swing has such significant reach and built up momentum as to make it very hard to avoid. See? You're already getting better at this "roleplaying" thing!

[Aksannyi]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

Lolyoucantlolaksorshewillsleepbindnukeyoutodeath

Lol. {True Strike}.

[Mhurron]

Re: Battle system adjustment 8/14/07

"It's just a game" Isn't always the ideal answer for justification, btw. I don't fight with PBJs (yet)

The grocery store in San d'oreo doesn't sell Peanut Butter or Jam.

The planet isn't mysteriously void of gravity

In many places it is. I can seem to stand in mid air in many places and in others, try as i might, I can't fall down a cliff.

most intelligent creatures walk on 2 legs

Idiots do too, I don't really see where you're going with this

and the San d'Orian knights don't fly in hover cars.

They do have flying boats though.