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  • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

    We are talking about RDM, who can solo many things in the game without giving it a single ounce of TP. Now they can cast Bio II/III followed by Plague and not have to worry about that 10 TP.
    Every offensive spell gives a flat 5% TP per cast, Dia gives 5% TP, Thungaga III gives 5% TP, Burst II gives 5% TP, you get the picture.

    Now I could be wrong, it's been awhile since I last fought a spell casting mob that actually used it on me and I paid attention to my TP, but I am very sure that spells such as Blind and Paralyze also give a flat out 5% TP. You call yourself a blm yet you don't know this pretty basic fact about spell casting and TP?

    There is NO such thing as being able to solo a mob without giving it TP. Your spells give it TP, it hitting you is giving it TP, and you talk about Omgwtfbbqkitten making no sense in his posts?

    Kindly stop arguing just for the sake of arguing and stirring up trouble.



    I'm always happy to see new job adjustments actually so long as they don't take anything away from the job, it adds nice new little perks to your job and keeps things a little bit fresh at least. Hopefully these new adjustments won't be merit based, I have a hard enough time as is trying to figure out which ones to go for =x.X=

    I'm actually thrilled with the idea of Extinct, those little hydra type mobs in Tahrongi Canyon? Finally some *hopefully* low level use for Ancient Circle and other job's killer JA! Although I'm hoping that any changes made in the past can also be undone, it'd kinda suck if you could kill off all Dhamels in Tahrongi Canyon say for good, or all Yagudo, etc.


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    • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

      Every offensive spell gives a flat 5% TP per cast, Dia gives 5% TP, Thungaga III gives 5% TP, Burst II gives 5% TP, you get the picture.

      Now I could be wrong, it's been awhile since I last fought a spell casting mob that actually used it on me and I paid attention to my TP, but I am very sure that spells such as Blind and Paralyze also give a flat out 5% TP. You call yourself a blm yet you don't know this pretty basic fact about spell casting and TP?
      Oh my... look, you are going to have to educate yourself in this subject if you want to debate on it. Yes, you are wrong I'm afraid... (in more than one case)

      There is NO such thing as being able to solo a mob without giving it TP. Your spells give it TP, it hitting you is giving it TP, and you talk about Omgwtfbbqkitten making no sense in his posts?
      Again, wrong. Very possible. RDM use this strategy many-times, like on Bune for example. Rely en-spells for example.

      Kindly stop arguing just for the sake of arguing and stirring up trouble.
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      • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

        Originally posted by Vyuru View Post
        Every offensive spell gives a flat 5% TP per cast, Dia gives 5% TP, Thungaga III gives 5% TP, Burst II gives 5% TP, you get the picture.
        Actually, it's 10% TP if a monster is on the receiving end.


        Originally posted by Vyuru View Post
        There is NO such thing as being able to solo a mob without giving it TP. Your spells give it TP, it hitting you is giving it TP,
        Everything which deals direct damage gives the monster TP. HOWEVER, RDM can use very low damage dagger, hit for 0 direct dmg, but still kill critters via en-spell damages, which is not considered direct damage. The same goes for spike damages (Blaze Spikes, etc.) What I'm not clear on is if Poison I/II would give monster TP or not.

        In any case, a very patient RDM can damage monsters without giving them TP.

        "No TP given" attacks:
        • Blood Pacts.
        • Quick Draw.
        • Any attack or spell landing for 0 damage.
        • Spikes.
        • En-spells.
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        • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

          Isnt a Cleric the same thing as a Paladin?

          What about a Druid? calls on plants and such!!!

          And maybe Weapon specific jobs like... High Archer, and Pikemen

          What about a Chocobo Knight?

          Grey Mage? uses both White and Black magic and has C+ in all?

          Blade slinger?

          Necromancer?

          Knight?

          Vampire?

          I just thought that i would put that out there....

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          • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

            Originally posted by Liger View Post
            Isnt a Cleric the same thing as a Paladin?
            Nope, it's a White Mage.

            What about a Druid? calls on plants and such!!!
            Beastmaster, for the most part. Probably the most unique idea here, if it hadn't been used tons of times already.

            And maybe Weapon specific jobs like... High Archer, and Pikemen
            Ranger and Dragoon, respectively.

            What about a Chocobo Knight?
            No.

            Grey Mage? uses both White and Black magic and has C+ in all?
            Give him a Dagger, and see Red Mage.

            Blade slinger?
            Ninja.

            Necromancer?
            Puppetmaster (true story).

            Knight?
            Here's your Paladin.

            Vampire?
            A type of monster.

            I just thought that i would put that out there....
            Before you did that, I would have picked up this cool new game on the market: you know, the one with "FINAL FANTASY" in the title?
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            • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

              FFXIclopedia.org has an inteview up, it's very interesting as it mentions new assaults, goes a little deeper into the new "Besieged" system we will be getting for the expansion, and a funny Absolute Virtue conversation.

              You can find a summery and a link on my blog, if you are too lazy to go there.
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              • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                Yes, the players will be able to come in contact with a lot of historic events that happened during the Crystal War. The battle in Sarutabaruta was one of those.

                Alright! We get to see Fenrir destroy the beastmen armies! ^ - ^

                Will the new zones be part of the conquest system? Or will this be something entirely new?

                It will not be connected to the conquest system. It will be something totally different along the lines of a besieged system
                o. O holy crap


                You have said that Wings of the Goddess will have around 30 new areas. Most of them will be revised versions of the original zones pre-Zilart. Will any of the new zones include Tavnazia before it was destroyed?

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                • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                  Originally posted by IfritnoItazura View Post
                  "No TP given" attacks:
                  • Blood Pacts.
                  • Quick Draw.
                  • Any attack or spell landing for 0 damage.
                  • Spikes.
                  • En-spells.
                  Someone with a FFXI Wikipedia account should edit that article.

                  Dragoon jumps don't give mobs TP either.

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                  • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                    I just hope the DX9 upgrade at least improves performance even if they aren't planning on using PC hardware aceleration.
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                    • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                      Anyone else agree that this looks like the best expansion yet!!! Ive always wanted to know more about Vanadeil's past and the war, now we can! ^^ Cant wait!

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                      • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                        Originally posted by bri360 View Post
                        Anyone else agree that this looks like the best expansion yet!!! Ive always wanted to know more about Vanadeil's past and the war, now we can! ^^ Cant wait!
                        If done right this really has the potential to be the best expansion ever... I agree.

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                        • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                          New jobs? And here I am still without my Treasures expansion. I sincerely hope Square presses several more discs for the PS2.
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                          • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                            In their video one of the new areas looks nothing like the origenal zones, so i do think that some CoP zones may show up.

                            they nlook nothing like a rehash of old zones, the geography is all wrong. unless there are partys of Davoi that were very big, overgrown and impressive that we can't see in the present.

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                            • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                              Originally posted by Raydeus View Post
                              I just hope the DX9 upgrade at least improves performance even if they aren't planning on using PC hardware aceleration.
                              I think you'll find that performance issues with newer GeForce cards (6 and up) are what prompted this. I doubt the graphics will look different at all but it should work a little better.
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                              • Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

                                Any ETA on this exp yet? I might just haev to buy this and resub to check it out

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