The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

[KamuroIshigami]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

Well you closed 2 threads having to do with Wings which ate my post, deleted Murphies post and then reopened one of the threads.

I'm having a bad day too, it's ok

Well, I closed two threads (this one and a new version of the same thread) so that I can make the appropriate changes to the heading post and delete the newer one. I didn't want people to make posts about something that I am working on to rectify and have to do clean-up later.

I originally didn't want to edit Pai Pai's heading post, but after your and Murphie's response, it became obvious to me that the flow of how everyone browse the forums would not make it make sense to start a new updated thread. So I chose to update the old thread instead, hence the way things are now. Hence, after the adjustments were complete, I re-opened this thread as it is now okay to continue discussion.

I apologize for the inconvienence this may have caused due to the interruption, but a temporary freeze was necessary while I make appropriate changes. Thank you for your understanding.

[Illuen]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

Last fall, for a LS static, I took Bard from 1-33 in four days. I was extremely lucky in getting some great parties, I admit, but it wasn't as hard as it sounds. Then, thanks to you, Murphie, the static met twice and then fizzled out.

I hate BRD so much after that, I refuse to play it.

[Sevv]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

mhurron is only having a bad day because he was up late lol, and ya im waiting for a real site for WotG

[Murphie]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

Last fall, for a LS static, I took Bard from 1-33 in four days. I was extremely lucky in getting some great parties, I admit, but it wasn't as hard as it sounds. Then, thanks to you, Murphie, the static met twice and then fizzled out.

I hate BRD so much after that, I refuse to play it.

My law takes no prisoners.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

No, they gave people what they thought they wanted. Now SE is listening to people that never want to leave a nusery and want to be babied through everything.

If you read the 1up article, you'll note the admission that (the ToA team) had initially made ToA easier than they had thought. But if you've gotten to the most recent BCNM in the ToA missions, its no cakewalk. Neither are the Ashu Talif quests, Salvage, Einerherjar and Assault.

Not all the ToA mobs are pushovers, either. Puks, Imps, Colibri and Flies aside, mobs are pretty formidable. Its just the former mobs metioned are too easy to get to and exploit

First problem with ToA is its hub design for the Assault missions and placement of easy mobs near the staging points. Camps are too easy to get to, leading to fast overcrowding and making other viable camps elsewhere in the world seem like a tedious trek.

Even with all the conviences of travel made now, people still don't use OPs or sky warp EXP in older zones. Sanction is too powerful for its own good, plus and the hub design are why players won't leave ToA zones to EXP.

Really though, when a developer realizes they were too heavy-handed one way, they'll go back to square one more often than not or go heavy-handed in the opposite direction.

[Illuen]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

My law takes no prisoners.

If it wasn't for the fact that you and your law indulge my schadenfreude so often, I'd hate you. D=

I'm glad that they've announced that they are releasing jobs, I know that for many people new jobs are the best part of expansions. *goes to grab his Dancer and Geomancer petitions*

[raidenn]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

Hey is this right?

Taken from 1up interview

A new standalone version of FFXI will be available at select outlets soon for the low cost of $3.99.

[Murphie]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

Yep, that's what it says. I guess a trial version in the stores to encourage more people to try it out?

A new standalone version of FFXI will be available at select outlets soon for the low cost of $3.99. The entire data of FFXI and each expansion pack will be included, but gamers - whose trial period only lasts for 30 days - will only be able to access the expansion areas by purchasing additional serial codes to register the expansion packs.

[Katashi Takishiro]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

I know that it can be quick to lvl, I've done a whm/smn combo to 50/37 in less then 3 weeks. Course that was way back when every XP camp from 10-45 had 2-3 groups fighting over pulls. Remember peak times in Crawler's Nest 300+ ppl, don't think any enemy was ever alive more than a few min!

I've since slowed down on leveling because its boring to rush through everything. I enjoy the game more experiencing everything at least once, or with multiple groups of players! Reactions are great...heh

It exists, its called an Expeditionary force and the Eco Warior Quests.

Good luck finding people to do them. There is very little reason to add low level content because no one ever does what currently exists.

Exactly, besides the few months of launch, when has anyone ever done these! ...and nobody ever does what currently exists because it all sucks, add something new and interesting thats fun to do multiple times. Too the point of leveling another job to help friends or strangers with because it was so fun to do the 1st time.

[KoukiRyu]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

I know that it can be quick to lvl, I've done a whm/smn combo to 50/37 in less then 3 weeks. Course that was way back when every XP camp from 10-45 had 2-3 groups fighting over pulls. Remember peak times in Crawler's Nest 300+ ppl, don't think any enemy was ever alive more than a few min!

I guess I'll call you on that....300 people in Cralwer's Nest? Wth? Maybe I just wasn't playing at the right time or something, cause that's ridiculous. All of the stuff you want exists, it's just simply that people don't want to do it, because the majority of players are high-level. The majority of new players want to get to high-levels fast so they can do...high level stuff.

It's not that the things completely suck, it's that the rewards are diminishing, and no one wants to go to -that- much trouble for something that's outclassed in like 5-10 levels. Or Eco-Warrior just for an exp scroll or some silly item, it's just simply more fun(for most people) and smarter to do things at higher levels, as you can use that gear forever, and often on multiple jobs, once you level them there.

Me, personally, I'd rather do more Assault than go get gear for my 27 WHM from some new low level event.

[Kuro]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

To be honest EF has been totally abandoned. they could make a lv 75 version with good rewards, then people might pay attnetion to it. Or make a mini storyline, gotta complete them all to get an okish reward.

i just wan't people to use what we allready have...

[Katashi Takishiro]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

I guess I'll call you on that....300 people in Cralwer's Nest? Wth? Maybe I just wasn't playing at the right time or something, cause that's ridiculous.

Same quote my guild and static groups always said! This was on Seraph server usually between 6pm-2am central. Peak US & Japan playtimes, with a mix of Aussies too!

[Tokitoki]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

I've never seen that many people in CN even during the huge initial rush of NA players trying to get to 70 (YEP! 70 not 75!) after the release.

[Mhurron]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

mhurron is only having a bad day because he was up late lol

It's more the major system failures first thing this morning.

[Mhurron]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

If you read the 1up article, you'll note the admission that (the ToA team) had initially made ToA easier than they had thought.

Ya, you're right

Actually, when we first started planning Treasures of Aht Urhgan it was supposed to be for really high-level players, and make it really difficult. But it ended up being a little bit easier than most people were expecting

Oh wait, no you're not.

And a bit easier? I nominate this as the understatement of the week.