The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

[Eiyoko]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

Alright, I've read my fair share of the hype and speculation, and some things should be said. Let me clear up some general issues here.

NEW RACE
There's not going to be a new playable race anytime soon, folks. There are tons and tons of files related to PCs: Armor, weapons, animations, effects, et cetera. If SE was to add a new playable race, there's hardly be much more room on the installation disc for more content. Besides, all that animation and programming would definitely push back the release date by a very considerable amount.

NEW JOBS
We're getting new jobs alright, probably the standard set of three that SE seems to like doing. A long time ago I heard one was going to be Chocobo Knight, and so far it seems like it's definitely going to be one of them. In further research on my own, however, I couldn't find much more on other job classes that might be to come; all I could find were some extremely vague hints.

PLOT
It seems clear that we're going back in time alright, but that doesn't necessarily make this a prequel. By all means, it very well could be one, but other options lie open. Here's a small musing of mine.
Every video game has that superly awesome bad guy in it, right? Like, the Shadow Lord, Eald'narche, Promathia, etc... and there's always a main plot that continues the plot from before. I don't think Wings of the Goddess is going to be any different.
Perhaps there is yet another major enemy that we must take down to save Vana'diel (again? Geez, haven't we already done this three or four times? lol). So, for the first bit, there's nothing THAT unusual, and then suddenly these strange events start occurring. You're the hero whom saved the world, plus you're an adventurer, so naturally you get caught up in the mess. Then it happens...
The enemy meets you, either in person or using his henchmen in some form or another. After the short meeting (a battle, an argument, anything), the enemy realizes that you'll be a huge menace to his plans if you get in the way. So, how does he get rid of you, you ask? He sends you back in time. Where the story goes from here, I don't know...
I also got the idea that getting sent back in time would end up being something along the lines of an accident that would coincidentally get you wrapped up in the main plot (sort of how CoP did; it's not like you went into Promyvion on PURPOSE! O.o; ).

I might also add that San d'Oria will probably have a heavy influence on the time travel mess one way or another. You can see how so if you've done (and remember) the plot for "A Timely Vist."

A Timely Visit

There's a little something handed down in the royal family known as the Scepter Royalais. In the quest "A Timely Visit", you meet a knight that supposedly was protecting the artifact, and poor unfortunate him - he ended up in the future (compared to HIS time, anyway). Near the end of the quest, he is about to be arrested by some of the knights in La Theine, but he uses the Scepter Royalais and returns to his own time before they can lay a finger on him.

I have a feeling that scepter may have something to do with all this time travel stuff in the new expansion, don't you agree?

[Kuro]

Re: The OFFICIAL "Wings of the Goddess" @ E3 2007 Thread!

=x {Really?} Who? >.>; Tell me just One... It's usually out of necessity or want or something of the sort, not cause they Like to... <.<;;

RMT

[silentsteel]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

I might also add that San d'Oria will probably have a heavy influence on the time travel mess one way or another. You can see how so if you've done (and remember) the plot for "A Timely Vist."

A Timely Visit

There's a little something handed down in the royal family known as the Scepter Royalais. In the quest "A Timely Visit", you meet a knight that supposedly was protecting the artifact, and poor unfortunate him - he ended up in the future (compared to HIS time, anyway). Near the end of the quest, he is about to be arrested by some of the knights in La Theine, but he uses the Scepter Royalais and returns to his own time before they can lay a finger on him.

I have a feeling that scepter may have something to do with all this time travel stuff in the new expansion, don't you agree?

Yeah, that certainly was an interesting quest, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it had Something to do with it, are there any similarish quests in Bastok or Windy? haven't done too many quests there =p

RMT

Lol, they dont Like to, they get Paid (albeit horribly) to.

[Kuro]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

touche

[Eiyoko]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

Yeah, that certainly was an interesting quest, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it had Something to do with it, are there any similarish quests in Bastok or Windy? haven't done too many quests there =p

Not that I know of as of yet; I'll have to check and see for myself. I remember a Windurst quest called "A Blast from the Past", but I don't remember it being related at all.

Another thing that interests me is one of the shots I saw of Sarutabaruta; there was a tower standing there. I have a feeling we're going back a lot farther than a mere twenty years....

[silentsteel]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

well, in the 1up interview, he says "About" the time of the Crystal Wars or whatever... doesnt mean specifically 20 years.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

RNG are more inclined to use OBow or Bow in merits. On god fights a RNG will use a bow or gun.

I don't see how getting silver bullets will make RNG less attractive either. They have the potential to do more damage especially when a COR has to buff the PT and RNG just attacks.

From a little test I ran the other week on RNG:

Slug Damage with Coffinmaker and Iron Bullet: 1,173
Slug Damage with Coffinmaker, Iron Bullets and Minuet x2: 1,532
Slug Damage with Coffinmaker, Silver Bullets (no Minuet): 1,510

I had a COR tell me he had done 1.9k damage on a Spongilla fly in mire because he was COR/WAR at the time. He had a BRD, but I suspected he had left another detail or two out. I went to Mire as RNG/WAR, using most of the same gear as I would COR, only a couple minor differences like armor on head and body. I had bison steak and berzerk active at the time in all shots, which were done just out of melee range.

As I suspected, something hadn't added up. When I went back to ask the COR who else was in his PT, he then recalled that he had a DRG in his PT that used Angon (20% defense down, 8% stronger than acid bolts), which would mostly account for the extra damage he had done. Another important note was the COR ate sushi, I didn't, so it was mostly the BRD and DRG's Angon that got him the high numbers, not /WAR as much as he had wanted to believe.

I don't think COR needs access to silvers, perhaps a tier of bullet between iron and silver could be introduced for COR or they could gain access to Crossbows, but you run the risk of obseleting RNG at all levels 50+ if you give COR silvers. The gap in accuracy between COR and RNG at endgame is pretty notable, but not so much in EXP if COR goes /RNG. Let RNG keep their damage.

RNG isn't doing that much better than COR in terms of job population right now, yet everyone concerns themselves with COR's population. Trust me, its not becaue we don't do enough damage, COR does plenty - its the expense, preparation and the responsibility a support class entails that makes COR unattractive to players. If you couldn't handle the fact RNG needed spend and have /NIN prepared, much less all the subjobs a RDM could want to take on, then you're not gonna be able to handle COR.

Chocobo Knight

You do realize that you can't attack anything while mounted on a chocobo, right? Chocobo Knights were referenced a lot in FFX, but never playable and not really a job class. If they are a class, I'll eat my cards.

[Eiyoko]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

You do realize that you can't attack anything while mounted on a chocobo, right? Chocobo Knights were referenced a lot in FFX, but never playable and not really a job class. If they are a class, I'll eat my cards.

Don't do that, one of the ingredients for those things is mercury lol

Actually, if Chocobo Knights do appear, I doubt they will be in the way we expect. Besides, in Wings of the Goddess we go back in time; perhaps riding a chocobo back then was different than it is now...or something like that. Also, what you mentioned might be the 2-hour or something XD Nah... Prolly not...

I do know that we will be seeing Chocobo Knights for sure, at any rate. I'll have to look up the information leak, it's on this site somewhere...

[ItazuraNhomango]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

... Chocobo Knight (CCK? CKT? CBK?) ... Chocobo speed ... hmm... Perma-flee?

Newest kiter in the game!

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We'll need a "Veterinarian" job, then; gotta buff, cure, feed, groom, and raise K.O.'ed pets. Job trait: Chocobo Bag--inventory space +10.

[Mhurron]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

I do know that we will be seeing Chocobo Knights for sure, at any rate. I'll have to look up the information leak, it's on this site somewhere...

No you don't. That 1up interview is the most information anyone has had about it so far. Previous was just a short video and the name of the expansion.

Anything more then hopes and dreams was pretty much people talking out of their asses.

[silentsteel]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

My guess is you read something like This

Or, maybe a newer one like This

[Murphie]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

Yep. Mere speculation, or outright lies.

[Auron517]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

Chocobo Knight as a new job is pretty farfetched. It would cause problems with the current system, and it just seems kinda dumb imo.

Geomancer is closer to being a new job than Chocobo Knight is, and SE would have a time figuring out how that would work too.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

Geomancer would only be a problem if they made it wholly dependant on ground which is stood on for power, which is how most Geomancers worked. But if they made it like Mog from FFVI, who just learned a geomancer-like Dance after being exposed to an environment or element (like a BLU to enemy attacks), then Geomancer could be very doable.

The weather patterns and days of the week always play a role in magic, after all.

[Murphie]

Re: The OFFICIAL &quot;Wings of the Goddess&quot; @ E3 2007 Thread!

Geomancer, Time Mage, even Dancer (though I'm not sure how they would avoid copying BRD on this one) seem far more likely than Chocobo Knight. At least IMO.