Support info for Microsoft Vista users

[LilithAngel]

Support for Microsoft® Windows Vista™ We are currently running performance validation of our software with Microsoft® Windows Vista™, soon to be released by Microsoft Corporation, using the final release candidate Windows Vista RC2. As of January 2007, we have confirmed that the PlayOnline Viewer and content on PlayOnline fails to function due to the problems listed below.

We are still working with Microsoft Corporation to solve these problems, but since performance validation takes time, we anticipate our support of Microsoft® Windows Vista™ to start after the official version goes on sale.

To our customers who plan on upgrading Microsoft® Windows Vista™ we apologize for the inconvenience and sincerely ask for your understanding.


[ Software Affected ]
PlayOnline Viewer
Content supported by PlayOnline (FINAL FANTASY XI)


The install menu doesn’t activate.

Even when the install disk is present in the disk drive, the application named “Install Menu” to select which program to install does not start. Instead, the PlayOnline Viewer installation begins.

The PlayOnline Viewer doesn’t start.

Sometimes, after installing the PlayOnline Viewer, the application fails to launch, and the message “PlayOnline Viewer cannot run under current operating system” appears.

Since the PlayOnline Viewer does not launch, FINAL FANTASY XI becomes unplayable.
Even when the PlayOnline Viewer does launch, we cannot guarantee its further operation.

Similar problems occur once PCs that we have previously confirmed are upgraded to Microsoft® Windows Vista™


From: http://www.playonline.com/homeus/headline/news01.html

[Vyuru]

Re: Support info for Microsoft Vista users

Dangit, I'm never going to find news first and get my pic on the front page :/

[MisterCookie]

Re: Support info for Microsoft Vista users

I've heard from someone who has a prerelease of vista that all you have to do to get FFXI to work is to run the program underneath Windows XP SP2 compatibility mode- haven't tried it myself though.

[Jei]

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It's kinda funny how they call it a "support" really... all it says is, our game doesn't work, kkthx.

[Murphie]

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While they are at it, maybe they could get at those Nvidia driver conflicts. But that's probably asking too much.

[Jarre]

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The problem is the average Joes computer will struggle to run it even if it works as vista is such a memory and processor grabbing operating system. i know my computer wont be able to run vista as it would take up all my memory and leave hardly anything for any programes/games I want to run. I will be staying with xp fr the time.

[Shadowneko]

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of course! Nothing Microsoft makes is any good and they just keep adding useless features that eat all the system resources and cause security holes big enough to drive a truck through.

I'm still considering puttting Windows Vista ultmate edition on the gamer PC I have planned out in my head but if it's gonna kill my fun...well you can forget it!

[Celeal]

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of course! Nothing Microsoft makes is any good and they just keep adding useless features that eat all the system resources and cause security holes big enough to drive a truck through.

ROFL, it is funny

But it is sad that once Windows Vista is stable, sooner or later M$ would fade out Windows XP. For example, just look at Windows 2000, when I was trying to find the timezone patch for the Daylight Saving Time changes of US in 2007, M$ says Win2k is no longer supported, and user have to use their tool to change modify the registry manually.... #@^*&#^@*

Note:

In August of 2005 the United States Congress passed the Energy Policy Act, which changes the dates of both the start and end of daylight saving time (DST). When this law goes into effect in 2007, DST will start three weeks earlier (2:00 A.M. on the second Sunday in March) and will end one week later (2:00 A.M. on the first Sunday in November) than what had traditionally occurred.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx

[Mhurron]

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The problem is the average Joes computer will struggle to run it even if it works as vista is such a memory and processor grabbing operating system. i know my computer wont be able to run vista as it would take up all my memory and leave hardly anything for any programes/games I want to run. I will be staying with xp fr the time.

Vista isn't as much of a Hog as you might think. Like OS X's Quarts Extreme, if your system can't handle some function of the interfaces eye candy, it just turns that off. Most machines sold in the last 3-4 years should be able to run Vista just fine.

Vista Enterprise
VMware Fusion Virtual Machine
1 virtual processor
512 MB Ram
VMware virtual SVGA video

It still works, but it turned off a lot of the Aero interface.

[Gentoo]

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Vista isn't as much of a Hog as you might think. Like OS X's Quarts Extreme, if your system can't handle some function of the interfaces eye candy, it just turns that off. Most machines sold in the last 3-4 years should be able to run Vista just fine.

But he was speaking of Joe/Jane Average, not people who play FFXI. These are the people running Dell computers made 4-5 years ago, sporting 128M memory, and the built in Intel Xtreme built-in graphics, where the pre-installed Windows 2K/Windows Me barely has the resources to run.

But your point is spot on. Vista, like most previous versions of Windows, can be configured to remove the frilly stuff that sucks up processor resources (so your CPU will spend 95% of it's life idle instead of 94.9% )

[Grizzlebeard]

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Don't think I'll touch Vista for another year yet. I'll let other people pay to test it.

[forster]

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1gb RAM
1.73ghz processor
X600 graphics

Full blown vista, with aero, and FFXI running same as usual. No difference at all in game that I can tell. I have to place the same restrictions on FFXI as I did under XP, textures turned up slightly and the weather turned off, no biggy.

Overall I cant see any more stress on my system, and my laptop is fairly middle of the road.

The only vista related problem over XP with FFXI is the install of POL that Ive seen, which can be overcome easily enough.

Some optimisations would be nice, whatever they turn out to be.

[Effedup]

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The problem is the average Joes computer will struggle to run it even if it works as vista is such a memory and processor grabbing operating system. i know my computer wont be able to run vista as it would take up all my memory and leave hardly anything for any programes/games I want to run. I will be staying with xp fr the time.

We got a few beta copies of Vista about a month and a half ago so our techs could start working with them and seeing how they run, and so far it ain't looking pretty. Their personal machines (which are pretty pimped out) seem to do ok with some minor compatability and software issues, but Vista eats the average-spec'd PC's up pretty bad. As of last week Norton 07 wouldn't run at all on most systems (and other 3rd party anti-virus they tested seemed to have similar problems)...of course Live OneCare works flawlessly, no big surprise there. Granted, these were Beta versions, so maybe they fixed some of the bigger bugs, but I'm not planning on upgrading myself for at least a year, if not more. It all depends on how long they (actively) support XP...

Guess I'd better start pricing out those 4 gigs of ram Im gonna need ; ;