New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

[Balfree]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Good!

Im a blm, and ill allways be a blm, this changes nothing, its for NMs only after all. Quitting over this is so weak.

[Ellipses]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

In the past, I've been a fan of the "wait and see" mentality on updates ("nerfs") like this. Given SE's recent history with them, though, Chicken Little doesn't look as dumb to me as he used to.

I would be interested in seeing other translations of the Japanese update information in addition to SE's own. Remember when the English update notes said you could only learn Blue Magic off of mobs that could give you XP?

[qaitakalnin]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

/sigh, ok come on, seriously, all this means is that new strategies need to be done for stuff where people were just taking an all mage alliance and totally wiping out something that SE wanted full participation between all the jobs. Yeah yeah i know (well have read anyway) that you do this or that with 18 blms and it is cake, but that isnt what (at least i dont believe) SE intended. They want players to enjoy all the jobs they play, they want players to come up with inovative strategies, but they read the boards just like we do and when people start saying "Oh you can *only* do this with x strategy" they start lookin at how they can diversify the job abilities or in this case entice players to start coming up with new strategies. And before everyone jumps the gun lets see what happends.

[Tirrock]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Time to attempt to do as many BC40's for peacock charm as I can before this comes out. ._.

[Awilo]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

This isn't a nerf just pure logic, a notorious monster is supposed to be Notorious, getting killed in a few magic blast isn't really fair play and probably they did it mostly for the RMT farming NM continuously.

[DakAttack]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Heh, so apperently SE is listening to the nerf whiners now. Anyway, i'm glad they settled on just NMs, hopefully that means melee will become more important to killing things.

Although I am gonna laugh my ass off if the same thing that happened with the RNG update (where they lost most of their ability to do ranged damage, specifically on kited targets) happens here, 'cause it's gonna hit so much harder. If BLMs can't damage monsters easily, melees are gonna spend all their time bitching about how hard things are, the same melees bitching about BLM being overpowered.

Double Post Edited:
another interesting note, they decided on what the "H" in "HNM" means for us. Now we can stop bickering about it, SE says it's high >:O

I don't understand why you would call them nerf whiners. I'd say over 25% of the game is rarely available to jobs other than Blm. ODS? Diabolos? Fenrir? Divine Might? HNMs? Gods? There's so many other things I would have never been asked to go on, even though I'm a tank, that I'll probably have a chance to do now. People threw Rngs at everything, and now they're throwing Blms at everything.

I'm pretty sure if you want an example of actual nerf whiners you know where to look.

Besides, so Blms will have to use a different elemental nuke from time to time. They've got three to burst a Light skillchain with, no big deal. They even said a party with only one or two Blms wont notice a difference. Blms will still be as stuck up as ever.

[Kirsteena]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Just - find me some invites please... no love for the blm anymore...

Lol @ ODS manaburning services going out of business. More fun the old fashioned way anyway!

[Feba]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Remember when the English update notes said you could only learn Blue Magic off of mobs that could give you XP?

That's true I beleive, only monsters which give EXP will grant BLU spells, although it's not a "you must earn exp like beastmen seals", it's still technically correct, just poorly worded.


And Rydrr, reread it, this is magic resistance, not just elemental damage.

[Kirsteena]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Yup - kiss goodbye to your flurry of Spirits Within at the start of Gods lol.

[Mazon]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Just - find me some invites please... no love for the blm anymore...

Kirsteena. Hello. My other name is Mishka, Level 60 Thief. Welcome to my world.

[Spinnthrift]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Kirsteena. Hello. My other name is Mishka, Level 60 Thief. Welcome to my world.

QFT.

[Rodin]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Kirsteena. Hello. My other name is Mishka, Level 60 Thief. Welcome to my world.

Well, the thing is, if you have TOAU, at 65+, you can TP burn...so you'll get invites. BLMs get no invites anymore, and when I mean no invites, I mean I was LFG for 4 days on BLM before I got an invite. (I went "What the hell" and LFGed while I was asleep.) I LFGed for 4 days straight before I got an invite on BLM. And guess what? The melees were bitching it wasn't a TP burn, and left..... Fuck TP Burns, SE needs to nerf them. (How you like them apples? )

[Kirsteena]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Meh it is not to bad, its my third job. I don't mind too much, I'm not afraid to go solo if need be, but god it is slow...

But agreed, most people don't realise just how damned hard it is for blm now - I mean, I'm coming up to the level people start tp burning in ToAU levels. I can kiss invites goodbye.

[Mazon]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

Well, the thing is, if you have TOAU, at 65+, you can TP burn...so you'll get invites.

That's 65+. That's also assuming that I haven't been burned out by the months of no pt's... MONTHS!. I love Thief, but with everyone in the mad craze of: Oooo. New jobs, why don't I go play with my Doll, Arrrr Matey, and ..... yeah well I got nothing for Blu , the pt train has been well, nonexistent. Mishka has become my high level farm wh-re.

But I still love the job, and won't give it up. I'm just not playing Thief on Mishka anymore. Now it's Mazon's turn.

[Ellipses]

Re: New Notorious Monsters and Battlefields!(07/19/2006)

That's true I beleive, only monsters which give EXP will grant BLU spells, although it's not a "you must earn exp like beastmen seals", it's still technically correct, just poorly worded.

Well, what I mean is that there are about five different ways I could take this the way it's written. It's not terribly specific. Add that to their past translation tendencies, a bit more clarity wouldn't hurt.

Honestly, for anything that isn't drastically simple, SE sucks at English. They word things in ways that can't be called incorrect or inaccurate, but also don't convey their meaning very well. Sometimes it's clear they're being intentionally vague, but half the time I think they just don't realize how vague they're being.