Quests for Blue Mages, Corsairs and Puppetmasters!

[Feba]

Re: Quests for Blue Mages, Corsairs and Puppetmasters!

Give me another two months. I promise I'll stop leveling some of them.

You should level MNk.


Do it.

[Murphie]

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I'm really interested to see what kind of stats they trot out for the AF on these new jobs. I mean, when AF was introduced for the other 15 jobs, the level cap wasn't 75. Will they make it so this stuff is really viable long-term? Or will it be scaled down to match the other AF that currently exists?

edit: MNK is a possibility! Scissors three for Elvaan MNK.

[Hantz]

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I'm really interested to see what kind of stats they trot out for the AF on these new jobs. I mean, when AF was introduced for the other 15 jobs, the level cap wasn't 75. Will they make it so this stuff is really viable long-term? Or will it be scaled down to match the other AF that currently exists?

I'm willing to bet the answer is 'scaled down.' That way they can get the new jobs all wrapped up in Relic hell with the others.

[Murphie]

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I'm of the same opinion, really. It's too bad, but it does make sense.

[Karinya]

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Well, on the other hand, I use two pieces of my RDM AF regularly at 75. Given the known and suspected mechanics of blue magic skill, if BLU gets an AF piece with Blue Magic Skill +15, or even +10, I don't really see them replacing it, ever. (WHM, BLM and RDM all get +15 in their primary magic skill, but SMN and BRD get no more than +5 from any one piece.)

Similarly, if COR AF has something like Increases Phantom Roll effects, Reduces Bust duration etc., it could be widely used for that even at higher levels, even after the +racc and +ratk is obsoleted by Crimson or whatever.

As for PUP, if they get automaton +acc, atk, magic acc, magic atk bonus, ranged acc, ranged atk, etc... most of those bonuses don't exist on higher level gear. Given the inability of the master's stats to affect the automaton, AF that boosts the automaton could be more valuable than practically anything. And I'm not even getting into some of the interesting possibilities for unique bonuses like "Increases effects of attachments", "Decreases fatigue from attachment use" or "Enhances 'Maneuver' abilities"...

However, most jobs eventually replace most of their level 52-60 AF with higher level gear (or keep it only to swap in for particular actions), and I don't see why the new jobs would, or should, be different. It would be pretty boring if your efforts to improve your gear came to a halt at level 60 aside from jewelry and accessories.

[Aksannyi]

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This is incredibly off-topic here, but is anyone else slightly disturbed by how a Galka looks in the Blue Mage AF? I mean, that face veil thingy ... is just ... too girly for a Galka.

[Murphie]

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This is incredibly off-topic here, but is anyone else slightly disturbed by how a Galka looks in the Blue Mage AF? I mean, that face veil thingy ... is just ... too girly for a Galka.

He looks positively butch next to an Elvaan in PUP AF. I'm just saying.

[Gwynn]

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I think you're talking about maat. There is not legendary sandoria rdm u can fight as of now. However, rdm maat is probably the hardest out of all of the other jobs.

Hmm... He was hard, yes, but it only took me three tries... within the span of two days. On my win, I didn't even take any damage... Stoneskin ftw!

[Brayden]

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"The Aht Urhgan areas are for high-level players, and placing coffers in these areas would make the artifact quests significantly more difficult than those for the other jobs."

First off these places arent really built for lvl 75s. i think of very few places where a group of lvl 75 can actually lvl or merit. honestly i think these new areas are built for very high 50's to low lvl 70's. the mass majority of these mobs are EP to D/C to me at 75. rarely can i see a evan match or tough mobs. so i fail to see whats so difficult,

Cadevera Mire (sp?) has flies, imps and something else too.. anyway, they all con T-IT to lvl 75.

[Mhurron]

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I'm willing to bet the answer is 'scaled down.' That way they can get the new jobs all wrapped up in Relic hell with the others.

Scaled down depends on what job you do. RDM could, if they so wished use their full AF from the time they get it till 75. Other jobs like SMN or WHM where their performance has little to nothing to do with gear probably could also. Even BLM could if they really wanted to. Melee jobs on the other hand rarely keep a piece of gear that long anyway, so its not that strange that their AF quickly becomes second rate, with the big exception being PLD.

I don't think they're going to make AF for the new jobs crappy just because they have other gear choices already. AF sets were made to enhance a jobs abilities, it wasn't just a stopgap or a set of free gear that was made with the expectation you'd never wear it.

[little ninja]

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Cadevera Mire (sp?) has flies, imps and something else too.. anyway, they all con T-IT to lvl 75.

thats 1 of only 2 places i have been to that a party of 6 lvl 75 can merit at insanely.

[tazirai]

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Scaled down depends on what job you do. RDM could, if they so wished use their full AF from the time they get it till 75. Other jobs like SMN or WHM where their performance has little to nothing to do with gear probably could also. Even BLM could if they really wanted to. Melee jobs on the other hand rarely keep a piece of gear that long anyway, so its not that strange that their AF quickly becomes second rate, with the big exception being PLD.

I don't think they're going to make AF for the new jobs crappy just because they have other gear choices already. AF sets were made to enhance a jobs abilities, it wasn't just a stopgap or a set of free gear that was made with the expectation you'd never wear it.

The Problem with scaling down is that there isnt much in the way of accessories to help us out on these new jobs. They will need to create Brand new itemsto make the eventual change from AF to "Something" else feasible. Im not talkign about the Yigit or other "SET" gear. they need to address each job individually liek the others.

BLU AF gear with +Learning ? Yes, please.

COR AF gear with "Enhances Phantom Roll Effect"? Yes, please.

PUP AF gear with......? Um, I don't know how to answer that question.

yes..Please...Please....

This is incredibly off-topic here, but is anyone else slightly disturbed by how a Galka looks in the Blue Mage AF? I mean, that face veil thingy ... is just ... too girly for a Galka.

he looks like he wants to kiss me.. in real life >.>

[Hantz]

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Scaled down depends on what job you do. RDM could, if they so wished use their full AF from the time they get it till 75. Other jobs like SMN or WHM where their performance has little to nothing to do with gear probably could also. Even BLM could if they really wanted to. Melee jobs on the other hand rarely keep a piece of gear that long anyway, so its not that strange that their AF quickly becomes second rate, with the big exception being PLD.

I don't think they're going to make AF for the new jobs crappy just because they have other gear choices already. AF sets were made to enhance a jobs abilities, it wasn't just a stopgap or a set of free gear that was made with the expectation you'd never wear it.

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying they will be crappy or useless. Just that it'll be really cool as a set for the first stretch of levels after you can obtain it, and that later on you'll still be getting a SH (not saying SH is what would be best or anything) or whatnot and only using the one or two pieces that still retain their use.

I just don't think they'll make the new jobs AF any more usefull to them than the AF is for any other job. They'll want to put in Relic, I'm sure, so that the new jobs will be on completely even footing with the older jobs.

Anyway, bottomline in my mind: the AF will be usefull, sure. I doubt that, just because it's for 'new' jobs, that it will be better than the older AFs though.

[Icemage]

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I would at least hope, for everyone's sanity, that the pieces are at least more useful than Bard AF is (above arguments notwithstanding, Bard AF is pretty much obsolete from the moment you get it).


Icemage

[Hantz]

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I would at least hope, for everyone's sanity, that the pieces are at least more useful than Bard AF is (above arguments notwithstanding, Bard AF is pretty much obsolete from the moment you get it).


Icemage

Definitely. I hope they're more useful than BRD AF. Poor freaking Bards. They have an ambiguous 2-hour (and that's their only JA) and the same JT in 4 intervals. Then their stinking AF stinks. Let's hope COR isn't singled out and given the BRD AF treatment due to BRD being the closest thing we had to it. I'd rather like to take COR to 75 in the near future.