Update (April 17 2006) Details

[zerofighter777]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

I would hope so, because that ship does look cool.

And the Yigit gear is equally impressive. Between that and the PLD's new auto-refresh ability, I am starting to worry about the future usefulness of the RDM job. Though I still plan on leveling it...lol

All I see is one less person to refresh . As far as the MPK issue, I think its mostly for BST's. If a beast starts a fight with the mob and pulls it out of its "circle" and runs far enough away, the mob disappears (please correct me if I am wrong). Maybe this way a BST can do as I described, and run far away (to zone maybe) and still not have the mob disappear on him (so he can finish it off), as well not get people killed at zone. I also think if your leveling and someone pulls a mob and runs near you and someone from your party AOE's, the mob wont come after your party and continue on the person who first generated the hate. I could be wrong. Just my thoughts.

[CoalChamber]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

No, I don't think there's anything in this patch for BST yet. I think we're still waiting on our "fix"
I just started up my BST again. Haven't messed with it since I've been back (i.e. Post MPK patch) I've been fighting bombs in garlaige so I haven't really noticed the effects of the "nerf" yet since when you fight bombs you just marathon throw pets at it.

[neighbortaru]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

no zerofighter777, that MPK patch was last time in Nov-Dec. This one is new and addresses a different problem (which task and I described much already).

[Taskmage]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news5120.shtml

A new command "/blockaid" has been added.
"/blockaid" has the following effect:
Magical assistance (such as "Cure" and "Protect"), trades, party invites etc. from non-party/alliance characters will be blocked.
The "/blockaid" effect will be canceled if the player temporarily logs out to the PlayOnline Viewer, logs out, changes areas, or is KO'd.
Command/Subcommands:
/blockaid on
Activate the blockaid effect.
/blockaid off
Cancel the blockaid effect.
/blockaid
Display current blockaid status.

[CoalChamber]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

Ah, kk thanks taskmage^^ There's still a bunch of stuff that was added while I had quit that I'm unaware of I geuss. lol

Edit: You can't claim mobs as soon as they pop now? lol didn't know that either XD

[tazirai]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

nice post thanks abunch

[zerofighter777]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

Ahh ok. Was just trying to make sense out of it. Thought mabye this would help BST. Have not had a chance to log in or played BST since MPK patch.

[FortMan]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

Let's look at the diagrams again:



I think the confusion is that, the next two picture 1 and 2, are not always from the same chain of events, but more likely from two different ones.

Case 1 would be that B is doing some small action that would get claim in the past, but not put him on the top of the mandy's "to-hit" list. (Example would be, say, casting Dia) With the new update, B will no longer get claim.


Case 2 would be that B is doing something that will put him on the top of the "to-hit" list. For example, landing Flare on the mandy. In this case, mandy will go after B, and B will get claim.


Note that for either case 1 or 2 to happen, the mob has to be yellow. If A already got claim of the mob (purple), this scenario will not apply. This is, like SE said, to prevent mob to being claimed by one party while beating up the other one.

Or, in short, you will get claim of an unclaimed (yellow) mob if you (1) perform an action that will claim the mob (in the past), and (2) put yourself on the top of its "to-hit" list.

I hope this should clarify things a bit ^.^;. I will test this with my friends tonight anyway.

[Gyotsha]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

oO After reading about Corsair I suddenly have the urge to level it, plus I can't wait to see what all those rolls do for the party :D

[sdillon]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

In response to the MPK issue... Using a 'very specific' example (this does not in any way shape or form say that this is the ONLY way that this anti MPK hate rebalance will work) - from what I understand so far, I think this is a good change.

Carmine Dobsonfly. Our LS has been there the first time and got the ToD and everything and we get first claim but 'ALWAYS' stolen by whoever else is there because we are unable to claim every single mob. Yet we were the first to get our -ga and astrals off enought to heavily damage all the flies.

So we end up killing half, and whoever else is there takes away the other half. When technically these NM flies that work as a 'single unit' should share hate for the original party who claimed it.

With the new hate they introduce, the first party to finish a 'ga' on these flies will have the initial hate of 'all' the flies and if the first party is able to get off their astrals and blm -gas faster, then first come first serve since the first party to do the most damage = most hate = will keep it on us. It will no longer be first come but get jacked by everyone else in the zone coz even though your -ga and astrals is what took out 80-90% of the fly HPs.

If you're confused by this example or have never encountered these nms, heres a link:
http://ffxi.somepage.com/mobdb/3290

[Deltran]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

god i want the helm that fly drops lol

[Omniblast]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

*sigh* no perpetuation / smn changes and we get our only defining job trait stolen from us *sigh*

<WHM> Should I sub smn or pld for auto refresh?

GTFO SE!

[DakAttack]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

I think they dealt with the biggest problem first, and Auto-refresh wont be attainable through subbing Paladin.

[Rai]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

All I see is one less person to refresh

If the auto refresh for PLD is the same as auto-refresh SMN gets or /SMN gets then a PLD would still need a refresh cast on them from a RDM or Mage's Balad from a BRD.

Auto-refresh is weak, 1mp every 3 seconds is only 20mp per minute. RDM Refresh is 3mp every 3 seconds.

You still see RDMs casting refresh on WHMs subbing SMN wearing Noble's Tunics, so there is nothing to worry about for RDMs losing their usefulness

[Taskmage]

Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

That 5 piece set where each piece gives auto-refresh is almost kinda like a perpetuation cost change.