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  • #61
    Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

    Isn't that the current system before the update?

    The last pic says B will have claim after causing enough hate: ie a cureIV etc from a PL

    Even if the PL doesn't have weps drawn he will have claim, and the lower level cannot get hate back if he cannot attack.
    Again, thats only if it was unclaimed. >.>

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    • #62
      Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

      Originally posted by Ghostraven
      Isn't that the current system before the update?
      Yes

      The last pic says B will have claim after causing enough hate: ie a cureIV etc from a PL
      No. Only if the inital case was that the mob was yellow (unclaimed) to both A and B.

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      • #63
        Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

        how did you get hate from a unclaimed mob?

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        • #64
          Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

          Originally posted by Deltran
          how did you get hate from a unclaimed mob?
          AOE, link, etc. many ways really.

          At no point in the update notes does it say having hate equals automatic claim

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          • #65
            Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

            Originally posted by Ghostraven
            /blockaid fixes that problem no?
            No. Blockaid is canceled by many things, including death. If anyone in your alliance died they would have to start spamming /blockaid as soon as they accepted Raise to prevent opposing LSes from getting a cure in, getting on the hate list and then Invincible to steal claim from you. Every time someone died.
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            • #66
              Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

              Originally posted by neighbortaru

              At no point in the update notes does it say having hate equals automatic claim
              Hmm that's what I was getting, But it does show B attacking in last pic, not curing or idle :sweat So i'm probably wrong

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              • #67
                Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                Originally posted by Ghostraven
                Hmm that's what I was getting, But it does show B attacking in last pic, not curing or idle :sweat So i'm probably wrong
                Thats ok, we still love you anyways. . . maybe. >.>

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                • #68
                  Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                  I see where your confusion is coming from ghost, but remember in the first pic, the mob is yellow. The mob won't be yellow if you are PLing someone so you don't have to worry about that.

                  Pictures 1 and 2 are a bit confusing on the wording though. In 1 it says B cannot claim whereas in 2, B simply claims without the mention of an attempt or not. They really need to fix that.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                    On the hate issues, I think what they're saying is that even if you do engage and begin attacking an unclaimed monster that currently has another player on it's enmity list, you can not actually claim it until you've caused more enmity. Wouldn't this make claiming sleeping monsters from a party that linked them a bit more difficult? And if you could begin an attempt to claim them, waking them and watching them cream the guy who sleeped it would be the new form of MPK.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                      Originally posted by Impaction
                      And if you could begin an attempt to claim them, waking them and watching them cream the guy who sleeped it would be the new form of MPK.
                      You could do this before, but you would claim the mob in the process and the MPK victim would be unable to resleep it. The blm would just keep getting attacked by a mob he can't target because it's purple. I think that's one of the problems that this change was meant to address.
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                      • #71
                        Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                        Ah, that does make more sense then. I've never been in a position to sleep links, so I'm not keen on the sleeping woes.
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                        • #72
                          Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                          yeah now you'll just annoy the crap out of the PT instead of MPKing them

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                          • #73
                            Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                            Originally posted by Ghostraven
                            nope read the details!

                            Ghostraven, also look at the very first diagram. It gives you a specific example.

                            "At this point, the monster has enmity towards A (for example it was hit by an area attack), but has not been claimed.)"

                            It's obvious they are talking about hitting another monster through an AoE attack. Ever cast an AoE on a group of mobs? Then someone comes by and claims one of the yellow with provoke? They're saying that whatever action you do, whether it's provoke or otherwise, must have enough enmity to take the mob away. You can't claim or attack it unless you can get it to attack you. And as was mentioned earlier it keeps people from grabbing claim from an hmls while that ls still has massive hate, and thereby mpking them.

                            Also notice the different colors of the monster's name. Yellow and puple. Unclaimed and claimed. Even if someone uses provoke on a yellow monster you've already hit but not claimed, they can't claim it unless they do something to generate enough hate to cancel your own enmity out. That means unless you can get the monster to attack you with your action, you can't claim it.
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                              • #75
                                Re: Update (April 17 2006) Details

                                I too was confused as hell when I saw the mob change. My first two thoughts were, P.lvling nerf, and (WTF about HNM?!) I thought the same thing as you ghost, that if you got enough hate it auto-claimed. I'm still not to sure, but I think I kinda understand better now. Also uh... what is /blockaid? >..>
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