Job Adjustments

[Artaxerxes]

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It doesn't say they're nerfing BLMs, it says "We do not plan to weaken the job". They want to provide more bonuses to including BLMs in a standard party setup. In no way should this lead to no BLM invites.

I don’t know if this has actually been covered, it’s a rather long thread..



Want to know what’s funny about this, people say that blm’s choose to manaburn. I say it’s the opposite, I say they are forced to. I as a melee absolutely refuse to invite\party a blm to any sort of merit party. Both as a ninja in sky\Ule Range or a Dragoon in Luf. Medows blm’s are a liability and to be honest leech off our exp.

I can get 10k+ an hr with any combo of (Thf, Drg, Sam(polearm) Rng) Rdm, Bard, more if they are heavily merited or 12-14k+ on Deco’s with a nin’s and wars.

[Darkhound]

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Blm nerfing a party???? Mmmmmmmmm never heard of that before. I find such a statement not true. Any comments on this?

[neighbortaru]

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the argument is that BLM slow down a high-level/merit PT because of resting/MP. when you are going for high, fast chains, the BLM becomes the slowest member. someone explained this pretty well to me (maybe it was in one of these threads even) and I can kinda see how this could be, but I have no practical experience.

[Balfree]

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A PT in sky i had, i became a main healer (SAM DRK RNG WAR BRD BLM) simply because i couldnt keep up with the killing, i had to rest mp between fights and that was slowing us down.

BRD was supposed to main heal, little healing would be necessary anyway, and Paeon5 was on allways, and was keeping everyone up. But soon i took main heal and the bard was singing melee songs instead.

I was main healing gladly, but i was sort of saddened that i, a killing machine (xD) was actually the reason why we were slowing down.

I remember another pt too, mobile sky pt, since we killed pretty fast i could rest anywhere i wanted, so i would rest to full, kill kill kill, rest to full rinse and repeat, while they ran around killing 1-2 mobs while my MP went up slowly.

[Darkhound]

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Well, I am currently level 60, and i enjoy both regular parties, and manaburns. Fortunatley I always have ppl in my to party with!

[tazirai]

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Are you serious about that? I think its the best SMN gear out there, the effects and benefits are amazing!

Yap I just dont have the patience nor time(I have an 11 year old), And i do have a sense of fashion, Besides Relic AF suits me just fine and looks more Summoner like than Ying Yang does. The good thing about this game is that I dont HAVE to have the Ying Yang robe, I can still out fight most summoners in a test of skill anyway. Besides
I always take juice and crystals with me, So relic Af + pineapple juice = ying yang robe ^^. WIth no +enmity ^^

[Jei]

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i think it's a fun NM to camp taz xD all those trains, all those corpses... yummy. the camp got more peaceful after the mob train change tho.

[Darkhound]

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I do give you full credit about the fashion thing. But I do have to admit that I am starting to like how i look ok it! pineaple juice and relic + yy robe... mmmm well, I guess that could work, but costs money, I know it does not cost much but still. question... do you wear AF2 with horn, or do you wear a penace hat?

I dont like the looks of the horn, so i wear my penace hat all the time

[tazirai]

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I do give you full credit about the fashion thing. But I do have to admit that I am starting to like how i look ok it! pineaple juice and relic + yy robe... mmmm well, I guess that could work, but costs money, I know it does not cost much but still. question... do you wear AF2 with horn, or do you wear a penace hat?

I dont like the looks of the horn, so i wear my penace hat all the time

I wear with horn for PT and solo play where BP timer isnt an issue, I wear austeres in BC and ENM situations. Im working on the relic horn but the drop is ...... amazingly low. its really annoying I've been wantign it for so long.

[Aeni]

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I don’t know if this has actually been covered, it’s a rather long thread..



Want to know what’s funny about this, people say that blm’s choose to manaburn. I say it’s the opposite, I say they are forced to. I as a melee absolutely refuse to invite\party a blm to any sort of merit party. Both as a ninja in sky\Ule Range or a Dragoon in Luf. Medows blm’s are a liability and to be honest leech off our exp.

I can get 10k+ an hr with any combo of (Thf, Drg, Sam(polearm) Rng) Rdm, Bard, more if they are heavily merited or 12-14k+ on Deco’s with a nin’s and wars.

No, I don't think this is the case. I can see where this is the case at 73+ but I see manaburns as early as 60s. That being the case and since most parties at these levels (60s) are slow w/o a BLM, manaburn actually is detrimental and not beneficial for anyone. I can see where this is not the case or if there is an imbalance in job population (e.g., if 50% of players are BLM and the other 50% are one of the other jobs)

I think the only way they (SE) can do something about this is ...

(a) Meripo PTs need to kill IT in order to gain merit points... this leads to...
(b) Adding IT mobs (to a 75 player) all over Vana'Diel.

Then this makes a "normal" PT desirable again and BLMs get their PT spot once more. Thus removing the need for a manaburn PT (nerfing this aspect will seal the deal once and for all)

Of course, this will make all HNM and Gods more challenging once more, since the cumulative effect of having multiple BLMs in an end game formation becomes a negative, not a positive. This then makes the excitement of the hunt more entertaining, lessening the amount of players having god gear (This is suppose to be a special thing, not something you can buy with RMT gil!) as well as making those monsters difficult the way they were suppose to be. I mean, if I was a god, I'd be fairly insulted if people only see me as (32 min) the time it takes to bring me down with X # of BLMs...

[Jei]

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gaining merit point on only IT sounds really harsh...
In addition to manaburn there are the soloers. Few jobs that can easily solo T-VT for EXP are Blm and Nin. Implementing this will surely force them to join normal PT for their merit.
This will encourage more balance party play but will also limit everyone's ability to solo.

BST will also get strike bad. It means now they need PT for their merit too.

[tazirai]

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I can solo merit on bombs and goblins since they like to go boom ! Hope they dun hurt that. M

[Khidir]

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SE encourages pt play all around which is good but they don't have to make it some sort of a rule... not everyone wants to work with you hi lvs feel like they have to work with low lvs for af help and stuff it sorta limits the lowbies abilities if that makes sense also you dont always have what you need

[Darkhound]

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I wear with horn for PT and solo play where BP timer isnt an issue, I wear austeres in BC and ENM situations. Im working on the relic horn but the drop is ...... amazingly low. its really annoying I've been wantign it for so long.

Is it worse then the Body in Glacier?? Or do you consider that a good common drop? Im talking about the body!

[Jei]

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3 dynamis BC run, got 2 drops. Pretty good imo.