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  • #61
    Re: RMT Countermeasures

    You do have to realize... RMT's dont just make money from FFXI... they make money from other games...
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    • #62
      Re: RMT Countermeasures

      Either way you look at it, it is something. Granted it isn't the 'answer' we are all wishing. RMT will exist on all games (EQ, WoW, FFXI, SW, etc) as long as there is a supply and demand. As of now, the supply is in shortage for the FFXI aspect and the demand is on the consumer end, not the seller.

      IGE and others lost alot of sales by this and will be hurt for some time. It'll hurt their pockets until content IDs are purchased, characters leveled, patterns learned, 'players' retrained, gear purchased etc. That will take time, something that apparently they have very little of.

      I can not say I am excited, it is a bit too late as the damage was swelling up like stove cooked popcorn in aluminum foil and SE didn't check it until it was too late.

      The thing is, when does IGE and others have the most profit pre-holiday or post-holiday? That question is something they might have been researching better to know when to 'attack' per say. We might have suffered for the better cause if they felt they could remove more gil out of the server after the hoilday season, or just plain suffered if they had taking faster action, we do not know.

      However, in the end, at least something was done, regardless of how small or insignificant it may be compared to a large scale format.

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      • #63
        Re: RMT Countermeasures

        For reference, there are 32 non-test servers, so <9.4 billion average.

        I think it is at most a moderate setback, there is no "win" until they either stop selling gil or have to sell at prohibitively high prices. Even then, they already did a lot of damage unloading gil during the holiday spending season.

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        • #64
          Re: RMT Countermeasures

          9.4 billion to me is still alot of money down the drain.. yes it may hurt them alittle.. but that is alot of money down the drain.. i still think this is a step in the right direction.. all be it a small one
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          • #65
            Re: RMT Countermeasures

            This is great SH is 4mil now used to be 29mil for nq

            Nice SE!

            if only triple dagger didnt go up :/

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            • #66
              Re: RMT Countermeasures

              SE did the right thing, but the wrong way IMO.

              They should have kept quiet, as now you got a panick stricken market, that is going crazy.

              Can't blame PR guys, but they're pretty stupid when it comes to playing market analysist.

              If they've keep a low profile, the drop wouldn't have been so erractic.

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              • #67
                Re: RMT Countermeasures

                Originally posted by kuu
                SE did the right thing, but the wrong way IMO.

                They should have kept quiet, as now you got a panick stricken market, that is going crazy.

                Can't blame PR guys, but they're pretty stupid when it comes to playing market analysist.

                If they've keep a low profile, the drop wouldn't have been so erractic.
                It's all about the PR. They don't want people scaring off new players with the "our economy sucks" talk. I think they'd rather have an erratic market for a few weeks, than to not say anyting about it and let people continue to complain.

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                • #68
                  Re: RMT Countermeasures

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                  make sense. by reading the update alone im pretty sure most of us felt very positive about this move. I did, at least.
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                  • #69
                    Re: RMT Countermeasures

                    But what about this:





                    This move was PURELY PR driven? I can imagine SE simply stating that they deleted ppl, removed money, etc, and that alone simply caused ppl to panic.

                    But there have been many Botters MIA, so it is evident that they did the deed this time. . . But I wouldnt put it past them to simply announce out the blue that even more ppl have been banned ^^

                    But the announcement in itself is what stirred the bee's nest. Had they gone their merry way, prices would not be dropping at the rate they have been recently, it would have merely been a gradual change.

                    But the SH dropping 5mil on Gilgamesh in a matter of days? That thing was jumping up by the millions over the span of a few hours.

                    Now there are 10 Taru RSE boots in the AH and the price has PLUMETTED

                    Scorpion Harness-10 mil
                    Hauberk - 7Mil
                    Huabergon - 8mil
                    Byrnie - 7Mil

                    These items were all above 15 million before the announcement, and look at what a few days of panic has done.

                    I love it, this is great. Kudos, SE, keep up the good work.

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                    • #70
                      Re: RMT Countermeasures

                      Its a bout time, I hope this is a real thing and that we get good results!

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