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  • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

    Aaaaaand SMN got nerfed hard. WTF SE?


    A lot of those changes are highly questionable. First of all, I thought BRD was getting nerfed but it actually got buffed - the hawk eye change is huge. Meanwhile they nerfed Blood for Blood & Internal Release, rather than just nerfing their potency when subbed or restricting BRD's access to either one. There are a LOT of nerfs in this patch actually, most of which hardly make any sense.

    Was nerfing Holy and Medica 2 really needed? Or Wrath? I mean WTF they were supposed to be buffing WAR, and most of the changes are good but they nerf Wrath & Inner Beast while also buffing Shield Oath for PLD?! WTF ?!?!?! I'm starting to really lose faith in this team.
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      Holy nerf was indeed needed. A WHM could parse level with a fucking BLACK MAGE just by spamming that one spell. Plus it was AoE, had a ridonkulously short cast time, cost less than most BLM nukes, and hit harder than Flare. There's a VERY good reason why the ideal Myth farm setup is PLD, BLM, BRD, WHM.

      Yes it needed fucking nerf.
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      • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

        o.O didn't think it was that strong.

        I still don't like losing thunder on SMN or the direct nerfs to BFB and IS - would have made far more sense to nerf them when used outside of that class (or they could boost each class' enhance trait to make up for this) or simply cut 1 of them from BRD as that was the problem.

        Rain of Death nerf is also insanely stupid as it doesn't just hurt BRD but hurts the entire party.
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        • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

          Holy also has a stun so it was fairly easy to keep a pack of mobs locked down by it, taking the control role away from the BLM.

          To be fair MNK got some pretty ridiculous buffs to compensate. I'm still baffled about it myself.

          BLM was actually buffed. Blizzard II is a worthless spell anyway and only gets used as filler fo making Freeze worth casting is great. DRG losing the animation lock is nice too. might be worth taking one for Coil now they are no longer a liability.
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          • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

            Freeze still seems like shit to me, and the scathe nerf blows.

            MNK buff does seem rather crazy, though I would argue the DRG buffs are even more nuts. I LOVE that they finally fixed power surge, so now I can regularly do a big critical jump every 65s and the boosts to chaos thrust and phlem are just oh-em-gee. HT going up to 15% is also quite nasty and really offsets the nerf to BFB - especially since it's not on a cooldown and can be kept up indefinitely. Hell the only thing missing was a further extension of Disembowl's duration and damage immunity for evasive jump (something I still don't understand why we don't have).
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            • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

              Freeze is a Blizzard II that you can actually aim. it's actually going to be useful.

              And who uses Scathe? The only time I ever use Scathe is when I'm waiting for Umbral Ice III to tick with a Firestarter Proc up. It's pretty much worthless for everything else and is a waste of a global cooldown at any other point.
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              • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                I went to update FFXIV and now the launcher is broken. Wtf?

                Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                Aaaaaand SMN got nerfed hard. WTF SE?
                What's the nerf? Their patch notes list a few changes for Arcanist, but none that are game-breaking.


                Oh, they're complaining about the removal of thunder. Ok. Not a nerf. Life will go on.
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                • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                  Losing thunder is at least a 10% dps nerf. That's pretty substantial. Getting blizzard 2 does NOT make up for that loss.

                  So now we get to spam ruin 2 more often, yay. Oh and Sustain now bleeds our MP even faster, wonderful. Let's not forget that Shadowflare will now wake mobs and break bind (which to be fair, I'm surprised wasn't the case before). The only good thing that came in the update were the fixes to pet AI.
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                  • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                    The reduction to damage output is closer to 6% than 10%, and the result, in practice, is meaningless. There are many things going on in a dungeon or trial that prevent you from hitting your full damage potential. Among them, pulling enough hate to earn yourself a quick death is easy enough without thunder.

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                    • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                      Paladin still has no self heal that is of any use....

                      I do really like the ability to scroll through the hate list. This will make tanking so much easier when you lose hate. So much easier than trying to select it with the left and right on the d-pad

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                      • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                        I've never had a problem maintaining my rotations on SMN while mixing in thunder. lame nerf is lame.

                        of course I main DRG now so... meh. I don't really like SMN anyway tbh - never thought I'd actually prefer XI's version with it's broken design.
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                        • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                          People crying over the removal of Thunder do not take into account the extra damage pets will be getting due to the Allagan buffs.

                          Bad players and whiners will always scream and bitch before any testing can be done. Then they will just ignore all the data because they are simply bad at SMN.

                          Plus letting SMN keep Thunder will make them a nightmare in PvP. Throw up all the DoTs, Sleep and GG.
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                          • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                            PvP is also probably the main reason they nerfed Inner Beast so damn hard - a 300% lifesteal attack would just make them unstoppable (they already have ridiculous HP). Seriously I feel like WAR is going to be far, far scarier than PLD or even other melee in PvP because of their HP, Vengeance and Holmgang.


                            And how does the allagan weapons being buffed 5 levels make up for a 10% dps loss, especially in the lower levels? When I was first leveling ACN thunder dramatically increased my damage.
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                              Warriors were pretty useless in the Wolf's Den this morning. The opposing warrior was the last to die, sure, but he wasn't dangerous.

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                              • Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

                                Dak, post more findings you have had from the wolves den. Its good info
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