What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

[Hayde]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

and how many tomes does it take for a darklight armor? a relic?

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Is any of the darklight armor not worth getting when you compare it to how good other dark light armor is or when you compare the stats to other crafted and materia melded gear?

900 tomes for relic if I recall, as far as darklight it starts at 375 for accessory pieces, 495 for some armor pieces, 825 for body/legs(helm?), and 1320 for the certain jobs that use combo pieces that come as helm + body and leg + feet(cloth-wearers, plate-wearers).

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

FC is like a LS right? Why have both? How do you get into one? Same as with LS's look for a shout in a city? How is yours Mal? Just join up with yours?

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I havent been doing anything other than just running through the main storyline quest, and the whole first week of early access I couldnt login... I'm getting on like 1-2 hours a night now...

[Aeni]

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FC is like a LS right? Why have both? How do you get into one? Same as with LS's look for a shout in a city? How is yours Mal? Just join up with yours?

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I havent been doing anything other than just running through the main storyline quest, and the whole first week of early access I couldnt login... I'm getting on like 1-2 hours a night now...

FC = Guild in most other MMOs. LS = chat channel in most other MMOs. Because LS in ARR is given freely and you can have as many as you want (up to a certain amount), it is not really a "group". Why bother with an LS, then, you ask?

1. You cannot form an FC until after you hit 25 on a main. You must also be vested in a Grand Company. In addition there is a money cost (15,000G)

2. Linkshells can be obtained the moment you end up in a city state. Just speak with the LS vendor to obtain your LS and then invite your friends. This is a temporary FC (with no bank, etc) which should tide you over until you get a real one.

3. An LS can be an invaluable tool for creating a secure or private channel. Because FC chat channel is available to ALL members, you wouldn't want to discuss private matters concerning a problem with a member or between members. That's where LS comes in. With it, you can place your friends or family or even specific members to communicate private matters to them. Think of it as a Facebook Group or Google+ Circle.

[Wise Donkey]

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FC is like a LS right? Why have both? How do you get into one? Same as with LS's look for a shout in a city?

A LS is now just a private chat channel. A FC is more like a LS used to be, or like Guilds in other MMOs - gives you a private chat channel, plus shared storage and in the future shared housing.

EDIT: Aeni beat be to it, and did a better job explaining.

[Malacite]

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Quick Synth and go AFK. It doesn't take that long at all for SB to build. Your FC shouldn't be using the SB gain bonus when they can use it to help people level their Craft/Gathering Classes or reducing Repair Bills for raids.

The fuck are you talking about, SB is based on how much EXP you gain and quick synth gives jack all for EXP - not only that but it has a colossal failure rate, and I'd much rather be HQ'ing the high level stuff I'm making as I've been amassing a small fortune just filling out my crafting logs; I've got somewhere between 200~300k worth of stuff up for sale atm on my retainers and more still to go, and that was just from spending the day clearing out my LTW craft list from 1~40 (HQ'd every single item).

tl;dr stop talking out your asses, both of you.

[Mezlo]

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(HQ'd every single item).

wait, wait, wait... you're trying to tell us that EVERY SINGLE item you crafted from level 1 to level 40, you HQ'ed?!?!? NOW who's talking out of their ass???

[Firewind]

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That's funny, because Quick Synth is based on your Craftsmanship stat and has a maximum of a 10% fail rate. Once you are past a certain threshold there is 0% failure chance.

Stop being a jerk, if you want to farm Materia, nut up and grind out those HQs.

[Aeni]

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The fuck are you talking about, SB is based on how much EXP you gain and quick synth gives jack all for EXP - not only that but it has a colossal failure rate, and I'd much rather be HQ'ing the high level stuff I'm making as I've been amassing a small fortune just filling out my crafting logs; I've got somewhere between 200~300k worth of stuff up for sale atm on my retainers and more still to go, and that was just from spending the day clearing out my LTW craft list from 1~40 (HQ'd every single item).

tl;dr stop talking out your asses, both of you.

Who's talking out of their ass? You said colossal fail rate. If you're quick synthing stuff same level then you're doing it all wrong. Here's the process in case you are still trying to figure it out.

1. You need lots of low level bullshit to make the current level craft.
Quick Synthesis

2. You then make a bunch of current level craft.
SB Profit

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Why is it that people just love to complain for the hell of complaining? I think it's because Mal didn't re-roll that he's having issues that is only something Legacy players experience. Taking crafts from 1 and up, I've SB several sets of gear. I also did for some tools, but not all of them (the key here is that some crafts, like BSM, don't really have the need of mats, like WVR, which can SB tools faster) Since you're not exactly starting from zero (I should know, you were bragging about getting a lot of crafts to either 50 or near 50 before end of 1.0), you should be spamming crafts closer to 50 or wherever the hell you're at to get SB. Not doing logs for bonus exp, which doesn't count to SB.

Oh, and FYI, this isn't 1.0 I believe there is a component to SB which takes into account the quantity of crafts as well as the exp gained. I go back to my example with BSM vs WVR.

[Malacite]

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I bust out HQ's on synths my own level and above and get 1~2% at best generally.

That's with 100% quality, on level 45+ recipes. You can't tell me that's even remotely fair, compared to how loltastic it is to SB items on DoW & DoM through FATE & Dungeons even with the SB nerf they put in place.


As I said, it's looking to me like they either haven't noticed or deliberately put in a mechanism to slow down SB on crafting gear. You guys keep giving asinine responses, so I'm going to be belligerent in response until otherwise.

OF COURSE I don't expect much EXP from the 1st-time bonuses or low level items, that was never what I was disputing - what I'm pissed at is crafting stuff at or above my own level, taking the time and effort to max out quality for the most EXP (and profit) and getting fuck all in spirit bond in return. I'm also calling bullshit on the 100% success, as I still managed to break a few hard leathers earlier on my 45 LTW wearing all HQ equipment (Not sure on the exact number but my craftsmanship is around 250+).

I have very, very good crafting gear and use food as well to maximize my efforts. I'm not asking for SE to hand me anything, I'm asking for shit to be fair in comparison to other avenues of spirit bonding.

[Firewind]

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Honestly it doesn't seem to matter how much XP you get, as long as you get XP which is why I tend to just toss materials into Quick Synth personally

[Aeni]

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Here's the breakdown for level 16 goldsmith and Brass Ingot synthesis:

1,300 to 1,900 exp (1,900 is with at least 1 excellent and 1 good condition) I believe the TNL from 16 to 17 was 45,000 or thereabouts. That's 2.8% to 4.2% gain. To contrast this, back at level 10sh or so, Ragstone Synthesis would cap out at around 1,600sh ... so the exp gain is (although not quite) following the TNL increases per level.

Leaving that aside, not all synthesis will contribute to SB per gear. What I'm saying is that your gear (in all slots) will not equally receive exp gain contributions to their SB. This is why I said that quantity is the second most important factor to SB.

You're trying to insinuate that there is some imbalance between crafting and combat with SB. Yes and no. Yes in the sense of the perceived speed but when was the last time crafting involved a circle jerk to achieve the same results? You require a group for combat, whether it's FATEs, whether it's dungeons or anything that involves a lot of "grinding". SB gain for combat is also the same. The more you output, the better your gains, and is not necessarily dependent on exp gains. For example, anecdotally, I could participate in a dungeon run, and then do it 3 more times, before my gear SBs. That would involve maybe 2-3 hours of work, depending on difficulty and level of ability of the players and as well as DF queue times. If group is weak and/or we wipe a lot, that time extends to several more hous easily (this was my experience in beta because I pugged a lot then as opposed to now where I static)

However, I could also achieve the same SB rate by spamming a lot of low level FATEs through level synching, and then only FATEs where it's pretty much whack-a-mole, and spam Overpower (WAR/MRD ability) Doing so gets me SB rate either the same or at times even faster, since I don't sit in DF queue and if lucky, can hit multiple FATEs per hour.

What about crafting? If I actually sit my ass down, I can SB a gear in 2 or 3 hours time, 3 or 4 hours with some breaks in between and to obtain materials, etc., from bank or vendor.

Maybe this changes the higher you are, but so does combat, and I dispute your claims that somehow you think combat is any faster than crafting when (a) you never gave any specific examples for combat and (b) you still didn't break down which crafts you engaged in, what recipe, levels, etc.

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That's the gear I logged out in and so you can see what I was trying to SB. It took me at least 3-4 full Brayflox runs after I gained each piece in order to SB. However, I didn't include the times I also went into Sastasha twice and Tam Tara Deeeps once in addition to those Brayflox runs. My final piece SB'd off of Titan the other night.

If crafting is similar at these levels, then I absolutely dispute your claims that you think combat can SB faster consistently. If you are extremely lucky with FATEs, this could be possible (even in a FATE party this may not work well) but to say that crafting is painfully slow with SB is either not taking into account factors that you were omitting or that somehow you are misrepresenting your experience with some weird biased tint.

(Edit: Actually, 2 calvary pieces are still not SB'd and I got them 2 full Brayflox runs ago, and I've already did 7 or 8 total)

You're not even listening.

On some of the higher level items I've made, I've managed to get upwards of 10k per synth (getting quality between 90~100%) and I gain like... 3, 4% SB if I'm lucky.

That's bullshit. Either it's only calculating SB off the base EXP (very likely) of the synth relative to my level, crafting gear - especially tools - take substantially more EXP to max out than combat gear does which is also BS.
Again conversely, I go and do a FATE and gain like 10% if not more, while getting considerably less EXP overall compared to when I'm crafting (Leve EXP definitely doesn't count as I've been getting upwards of 81.5k EXP per leve off the 40's). The manual EXP nerf just strikes me as arbitrary, as it's only going to hurt new players - I'm at the point where I can HQ virtually any synth I want to whether I have HQ materials or not (I'm that good now AND NO I'M NOT TELLING HOW I DO IT) so I don't need the boosted EXP from them anymore the way I spammed them in 1.0; HQ'ing leves is giving me absolutely retarded EXP, upwards of 1/4 of my level in 1 shot and this is at 45+....

Here is where you gave an example but you weren't exactly being clear.

1. Did you check to see if ALL of your gear gained 10% SB?
2. Did you actually note SB gains for each FATE you've participated in? You may have lucked out.

Also boasting about HQ when I already am doing it at the teens make me laugh. What secret? Shit's in the tooltip, everyone can figure it out on their own. Some more quicker than others, but who's recording?

[Malacite]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

Actually synching down too far doesn't do much; I did a few FATES on my ARC below 16 and got diddly. Soon as I did one in south shroud I got a nice fat 8%.

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

I can't figure out how to save gear sets. I want to make it so when i swap out a weapon, it pulls over all the gear i want equiped for that job. How do i set that up? I had heard you need to get through a certain level of the main story quest, im up to level 33, so i think I'd be there, but I still cant figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.

[Malacite]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

You have to actually unlock the armory first (doing your level 10 class quest).


Then go to gear sets, you'll see a + sign in the upper left corner - click that to make a new set. Whenever you change the gear for a set, click the icon in the upper right (above your 3D character model) with the 2 arrows circling up and down - that saves any changes to a set.

[Mezlo]

Re: What's your pet-peeve in FFXIV: ARR?

oh!!! class quest!!! thanks!