Phase 4 Woes

[Aeni]

Re: Phase 4 Woes

Okay, so moving off Legacy servers isn't known yet, but moving to them could happen within a few weeks of launch.

Edit:

Nearly 20,000 affected players with 3102 now according to thread on official forums. If we go by the fact that maybe less than 1/2 would ever go to the forums to complain (or some would just create a new character and chalk it up to beta issues as they should) then we could be looking at 2 or 3 full servers full of players affected by this problem. That's too big to just sweep it under the rug SE. Address it or you're going to have to deal with the backlash by the media which will completely (and maybe unfairly) undo all the hard work of the past year.

[Melody]

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Yeah I just got hit with the 90,000 Error when I went to join someone's party. There are well over 150,000 Players playing the beta, which was god damn amazing. But the errors that came along with it was a major backlash that I'm sure Yoshi didn't see coming. So let's not blame him for it. It was a stress test for Phase 4 and well if they wanted results, they're going to get damn good ones from this Phase. Let's hope they learned from the data compiled, as of right now I am sitting in the login screen since the servers for NA/EU just went down for emergency maintenance. I'm wondering if we'll be compensated for the 5 hour time loss (Most likely not) but this is the first error I've had all weekend. From what I've seen it's mostly the PC users who are getting the errors versus players (such as myself) who are on PS3. A player's wife was stuck with the 3102 errors while he was in game on his PS3, he let his wife use the PC.

[Aeni]

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It's well over 150,000 ... considering that over 1 million applied for beta access and that open beta (my understanding) would've been more lenient in the acceptance. I'm going to assume that SE overestimated their server capacity and that bit them in the ass during this Phase. It'll likely be capped at roughly 15,000 max per server (Blizzard's servers were usually around that in the mid-range and as high as 22,000 to 25,000 on some very crowded worlds)

If we do a simple math, this means that SE will need around 60 to 70 servers total across the board. They're currently at 50, but I'm afraid they'll need to double that for release (I think 50 servers is fine for Early Access) So we're looking at a total of 100 servers just in the first month after release. This game could very well be growing faster than SE could handle (Remember, Blizzard ran into the EXACT SAME PROBLEM)

But they will need to carry out massive server roll-outs in conjunction with Phase 4 data wipe. And then install a smart automatic shut-off for first character creations when it hits a certain number (Remember, they need to leave some room on each server for the upcoming paid-migrations as well as returning 1.0 players and Legacy players)

I'm not going to be unrealistic in saying that the possibility is there for SE to hit 2 to 5 million subscriptions before the first major expansion of this game. They need to make some contingency plans and spend heavy. The pay-out in the end, being a P2P game, will be freaking huge and a sweet victory for a battered gaming company.

[Melody]

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Are the servers still down and what do you mean Phase 4 Data wipe? If that happens then SE is going to be sitting in hot water, unless I am taking this in the wrong perspective. I enjoyed phase 4, but I'll be damned if I am going to be wiped for doing 3 days worth of work. That's time I'd better be accounted for with a gift from Yoshi-P himself.

[Aeni]

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Are the servers still down and what do you mean Phase 4 Data wipe? If that happens then SE is going to be sitting in hot water, unless I am taking this in the wrong perspective. I enjoyed phase 4, but I'll be damned if I am going to be wiped for doing 3 days worth of work. That's time I'd better be accounted for with a gift from Yoshi-P himself.

You and everyone else didn't read the itinerary of Phase 4. "In the event that the data affects stability and prevents operation of the game, we will wipe all data from Phase 4". Legacy players would just be rolled back to that last save point from 1.0 Not sure why you or anyone else would be upset by this. I was in Alpha all the way through P4 and I created and played on no less than 20 characters and have had them deleted. That's the nature of "BETA TESTING" and one should not mistake that for "Early Access", "Free Trial" or anything along that line of reasoning.

Also, for you EU players (NA too, but most of them would be sleeping) you should rejoice as you're getting an additional 6 hours of play time. Japan data center to shut down at the original scheduled time (which is around 2am PDT) but NA/EU servers will be up until 8am PDT.

[Melody]

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You and everyone else didn't read the itinerary of Phase 4. "In the event that the data affects stability and prevents operation of the game, we will wipe all data from Phase 4". Legacy players would just be rolled back to that last save point from 1.0 Not sure why you or anyone else would be upset by this. I was in Alpha all the way through P4 and I created and played on no less than 20 characters and have had them deleted. That's the nature of "BETA TESTING" and one should not mistake that for "Early Access", "Free Trial" or anything along that line of reasoning.

Also, for you EU players (NA too, but most of them would be sleeping) you should rejoice as you're getting an additional 6 hours of play time. Japan data center to shut down at the original scheduled time (which is around 2am PDT) but NA/EU servers will be up until 8am PDT.

So we're talking another 6 hours FROM now? So instead of being shut down at 5 EST time, it's going to be....11:00?

[Jarre]

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though were still waiting for them to return ......

[Melody]

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Well then they're going to need to make up for the lost time then. I mean it will only be 6 hours, but still, better than nothing. They might as well give us an extra day at this point. Do you guys have Skype? I deleted my Legacy server character and I am moving to Goblin until Balmung is sorted out.

[Aeni]

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6 hours from when it suppose to end ... which means that after the servers come back up at 12:30 PDT, you'll have 1.5 hrs + 6 hrs or 7.5 hrs total.

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though were still waiting for them to return ......

Maintenance was suppose to be 3 hrs and they still have 15 minutes at the time of this post.

[Hayde]

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Well then they're going to need to make up for the lost time then. I mean it will only be 6 hours, but still, better than nothing. They might as well give us an extra day at this point. Do you guys have Skype?

Maintenance ends in roughly 20 minutes from this post; the servers for NA/EU will remain open until 8AM PDT/10AM CST/11AM EST. If they were really going to compensate for every player--they would technically need to extend 2 more days, since some people have had 3102 errors since Friday night. I really don't think they can afford to keep the servers up for more than their extension. For one, those who didn't get affected will get an advantage, and since the JP servers are being taken down..they're going to cry fowl or something (If you've ever been on the beta forums for more than 5 minutes, the smallest things seem to set people off...it's possibly the worst community I've ever seen and that's saying something).

I have Skype, though I'm on a different server than you and some of the other folks; my legacy character is on Excalibur though.

[Melody]

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Ah okay. Neat, so we got compensated with time. That's neat. :D Thank you SE! PM me for my Skype :3

[Gman]

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Compensated time doesn't do much if they are going to wipe the data. I really only played yesterday, and it was really smooth sailing until about 7PM EDT when I went out to mow the lawn. When I came back in, my screen said I lost communication from server, error 90000. I wasn't able to get back in last night at all, but with the emergency maintenance I logged in this morning and did a few things. So all in all, I lose about 1 day of playing time if they force a restart. Not a big deal to me... got my archer to 15, just started the emmisary missions, and got couple of crafting classes leveled a bit. As proven- easily doable in a day.

[Malacite]

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I really hope they don't do another wipe.

Not that I gained anything significant, just I seriously don't want to have to sit through all the damn CS and re-do those missions yet again, to say nothing of re-hiring my retainers and fixing my inventory.

[Melody]

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Fuck Leia's Legacy, all I'm saying. I get hit by the fucking Lancer ONE time at full health half my health is just gone.

[Firewind]

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The way I see it with character data retention is win-win. If they keep the data I carry on doing what I was doing this weekend. If they delete the data I just rename my Legacy character and use that to get a head start of "Subjobs" for Thaumaturge since I have ARC and CNJ at a decent level.