Mog Mail

[Wise Donkey]

Re: Mog Mail

From Live Letter VII

Q11: In regards to retainer sharing, for example, if you have one account with three characters on the same world, will we be sharing 2 retainers between 3 characters or have 6 retainers?

A11: While their inventory will be empty, the retainers will be shared.

Translated via Reddit, not sure of original source

・Will have 2 retainers (Within same world it's possible to share between characters)

Two retainers without shared inventory? How is that different from two for each character? I think more clarity is needed.

[Aeni]

Re: Mog Mail

I just told you... It's two retainers per world, per account. All characters from the same account and same server share the two retainers. Stop over thinking things. lol

What happens to the inventories on the other 4 retainers? That's what I am asking about here. Maybe this doesn't concern you, since you probably only had 2 retainers in 1.0 I had 6 and they were relatively well stocked. And if they just randomly decided on which 2 retainers of the 6 you can have back, then that's even more disconcerting, considering that gils and items were not evenly distributed amongst all 6. I just hope they throw everything to the Chaotic (or was it Cataclysmic? Cataclysm?) NPC so I can retrieve those items.

Edit:

Wise Donkey that's taken from SE's forum from some Producer Live coverage. But whether that's the official line or if that's one of Reinhart's translation is anyone's guess especially if the source was not specified. Even if it was the official source, it's so vaguely worded and it seems as if SE was trying not to answer the question. If what Etra says is true, then I can completely understand why SE avoided answering the question directly as it would've probably caused a lot of controversy and a lot of crying.

[Etra]

Re: Mog Mail

What happens to the inventories on the other 4 retainers? That's what I am asking about here. Maybe this doesn't concern you, since you probably only had 2 retainers in 1.0 I had 6 and they were relatively well stocked. And if they just randomly decided on which 2 retainers of the 6 you can have back, then that's even more disconcerting, considering that gils and items were not evenly distributed amongst all 6. I just hope they throw everything to the Chaotic (or was it Cataclysmic? Cataclysm?) NPC so I can retrieve those items.

That's exactly what those NPCs were for. You're making this whole thing a needlessly complicated debacle.

Edit: That quote... Just said exactly what I have been saying. Ehrmagerd. You people make me want to beat my head down with a rock sometimes.

[Wise Donkey]

Re: Mog Mail

I think it is a "wait and see", as there is no 100% clear statement as to what happens with that 3rd+ retainer's inventory. The Lodestone 1.0 character data transfer page doesn't clearly define it. It says that items not in you inventory are retrievable from the Calamity Salvager, but that retainer items will still be on the retainer. I hope you will be able to retrieve your stuffs, Aeni.

[Aeni]

Re: Mog Mail

That's exactly what those NPCs were for. You're making this whole thing a needlessly complicated debacle.

Edit: That quote... Just said exactly what I have been saying. Ehrmagerd. You people make me want to beat my head down with a rock sometimes.

I already checked my characters and found out two things: (a) NPCs do not store your gil (so that will stay on the retainers) and (b) overflow to NPCs were from items ONLY from my character's inventory and not the retainers.

And this is exactly what Wise Donkey's post was conveying. You can be as indifferent all you want Etra, because I'll forgive you considering this doesn't impact you. But for those of us that are being impacted by this, then there's no harm in us wanting a clear response, which we are not getting (still scouring the beta forums for an answer)

[Etra]

Re: Mog Mail

Why not make a post in the general forums asking? I can't, since I'm banned. :p

[Aeni]

Re: Mog Mail

Why not make a post in the general forums asking? I can't, since I'm banned. :p

I tried but it won't let me. Either I'm also banned (weird) or they are locking the forums until the next test.

[Etra]

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I tried but it won't let me. Either I'm also banned (weird) or they are locking the forums until the next test.

Really? That's odd. Saw new threads made today. You'd know if you were banned, though -- it says:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Forum Rule Violation

Date the ban will be lifted: [time]

[Malacite]

Re: Mog Mail

The Feedback sections are always locked between tests.

General is open though.

[Malacite]

Re: Mog Mail

Letter from the Producer LIVE Part VII Q&A Summary (07/12/2013)

Q: In regards to retainer sharing, for example, if you have one account with three characters on the same world, will we be sharing 2 retainers between 3 characters or have 6 retainers?
A: It will not be possible to share retainers between characters even on the same world. Due to this, if you were to make three characters on the same world with the same account, your total number of retainers would be 6.
* During the stream it was said that retainer sharing would be possible; however it will not be possible.

[DakAttack]

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* During the stream it was said that there would be retainers; however there are no retainers

[Aeni]

Re: Mog Mail

Letter from the Producer LIVE Part VII Q&A Summary (07/12/2013)

So retainer sharing is out (and I've already suspected as much, because the logistics would've been too much for their programming team to do so using the underlying structure they essentially just lifted from 1.0) So how the fack do you move things around between the characters? This is going to be a big issue for the community as a whole, especially with Legacy players. I'll go and put a suggestion for SE to at the very least, dump ALL gil and items into the "main" character (or one of our choosing) so we can safely delete the other characters and retainers (seeing as we don't need it; renders our 8 character per world perk for standard sub rates rather useless)

[Aeni]

Re: Mog Mail

Well, looks like there's only a week of open beta before Early Access begins (Open beta aka Phase 4 starts on Aug 8 or Aug 9). So much for "testing and debugging". As I've said before, Phase 3 was pretty much the final testing portion of "beta" and the rest is really just to fine-tune game balance (fiddling with tenths of a point and not system-en-masse) With that said, I'm fairly disappointed with how SE has handled item exchange within the same account (we're not even asking to be able to send items across different accounts) At this point, I've decided to play with my IRL friends who have decided that they rather go to a "virgin" server than a Legacy one. I'll see you guys from time to time, but I'll be on a non-Legacy server (tbd) at release.