New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

[jenova_9]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

Well it's costly to add RAM to consoles because companies have to mass produce consoles with equal RAM/specs, mew.

It's not like PC where no one really owns PC, people just make hardware for it and people upgrade their stuff and stack more RAM and stuff.

It's kind of like cheeseburgers and cars, cars are customizable but cheeseburgers come as is, mew.

[DakAttack]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

For the kids in class that are paying attention - and you should be embarrassed because this totally isn't me, I've been doodling and daydreaming - FFXIV's new engine has been built to scale to new platforms. In other words, they developed this with newer platforms in mind as well.

Perhaps you've heard Resident Evil Revelations is coming to PS3, 360 and Wii U or you've noticed Street Fighter X Tekken and Super Street Fighter IV hit Vita and 3DS respectively. See, Capcom has this neat thing called MT Framework, which allows them to scale these big or small games to bigger or smaller platforms and not lose too much in terms of how those games performed within their engines.

This is what FFXiV is doing and what works for PS3 and PC will work for PS4, the next Xbox and whatever better PC you might build.

So FFXIV: A Realm Reborn isn't going to languish on PS3 and there's going to be little or no "PS3 limitations." Your PC version of FFXIV would be able to enjoy all the new graphical bells and whistles and PS3s honestly should have enough HDD going for it now that updates and revisions to the game don't hold anyone back. PS3's version is going to have its issues, obviously - there's just no getting around its laughable RAM allocation, but its not going to be the kind of hindrance PS2 sometimes was to PC with FFXI.

I expected more from you, BBQ. Scalability is not portability. All scalability means is they turned check-boxes into sliders.

The PS3's biggest problem is that Sony expected developers to code to their hardware. This made porting anything developed on the Xbox 360 or PC to the PS3 relatively painful. This is why multi-platform titles on the PS3 tend to lag when it comes to performance; developers don't always take time out to code to the PS3's hardware. On the other hand, porting anything from Xbox 360 to PC is a matter of integrating APIs and meeting certification standards.

So any optimizing the FFXIV team is doing on the PS3 may be made completely pointless if the PS4 returns to its PC roots or takes off in a completely different direction. It would be smart to future-proof their game, even if that means leaving some of their subscribers in the dust. And like I said earlier, as a launch title they could expect to pick up a slew of new subscribers, some of which are touching the genre for the very first time because it's a launch title.

Well it's costly to add RAM to consoles because companies have to mass produce consoles with equal RAM/specs, mew.

It's not like PC where no one really owns PC, people just make hardware for it and people upgrade their stuff and stack more RAM and stuff.

It's kind of like cheeseburgers and cars, cars are customizable but cheeseburgers come as is, mew.

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

• RAM is cheap
• People own PCs
• Cheeseburgs are hella customizable
• Go find a Five Guys

[Armando]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

Thanks for the laugh.

For whatever it's worth I think J9 was trying to say no one owns PC manufacture (as opposed to Apple, or console manufacturers). The rest of the post was still ridiculous.

[Mezlo]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

It's kind of like boogers and cars, cars are customizable but boogers come as is, mew.

ftfy

[jenova_9]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

eeeewww.

anyway, I still don't agree of FFXIV ARR abandoning PS3 for PS4, you'd still have the PS3 subscribers and a PS4 port could still happen without making console buyers have to exclusively buy a PS4 to play FFXIV ARR on console, mew.

just like Xbox360 FFXI Online looks better than PS2 FFXI Online but that didn't change the fact that many PS2 fans subscribed to FFXI Online for very long time even after the Xbox360 version released, the community also benefitted from PS2, X360 and PC communities instead of just two platforms.



Same with FFXIV ARR. PC, PS3 and PS4 would generate more subscribers than if it was just PC and PS4, mew.

[cidbahamut]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

Archaic hardware is a ball and chain. Why would you want that hindering a product that's supposed to have a life cycle as long as a decade?

Answer: you don't.

[jenova_9]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

It won't hinder product because Square Enix has extensive experience and resources to develop for PS3.
By your logic, no company would bother developing for PS3 since it requires more effort than X360 and PC, mew.

Square Enix knows what they are doing. PS2 had a similiar case with development for it, yet big companies still develop content just fine.
Despite PS2 hardware, FFXI Online still has as long and successful history, with a 5th expansion releasing!

And they have PS4 as a backup plan when FFXIV ARR gets to the point where PS3 hardware might not make the cut for further expansion.

but dealing with the present, the PS3 is the best platform other than PC for FFXIV ARR and everyone knows it will sell big on PS3 besides PC, mew.
There are many in PS3 community willing to subscribe for FFXIV ARR, just like they subscribe for other things.

[cidbahamut]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

You're an idiot.

[jenova_9]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

You're an idiot.

Very intelligent comeback, mew.

[Malacite]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

You're an idiot.

Pot calling the kettle

[cidbahamut]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

Very intelligent comeback, mew.

I prefer to think of it as accurate and concise.

[Armando]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

You're an idiot.
...
I prefer to think of it as accurate and concise.

Drop it.

[cidbahamut]

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[Aeni]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

That's actually not true at all Aeni, he specifically said there'd be a level cap raise shortly after Summoner's release - 2 or 3 updates after launch IIRC.

2 or 3 updates is =/= immediately following or shortly after release. That could mean 2 years in SE speak (This is SE we're talking about, put aside Yoshi-P for one second, the same president for several years at the helm, c'mon people, don't drink too deeply from the Kool Aid) The process for ARR is about as slow as you can get considering the fact that there is no additional income stream for Yoshi-P's development team (1.0 ended a few weeks ago, subscription for ARR won't start until at least a month after release in many cases) We're looking at what was once thought of a few months ago of at least a March 2013 release looking more and more like a June 2013 ... in a good case scenario. And there might be some confusion with translation in any event. What does update constitute for SE? Content update? Patches? Expansions?

[Etra]

Re: New info and PS3 version is being played!! ^-^

There's only one video to calm all you people down.

Now then. You're being a bit delusional if you think the PS3 will not hamper the development of FFX|V. Sure, the graphics can be scaled, but what about everything else? What if SE wanted to do CvC style PvP? (CvC = Company vs. Company ala WvW in GW2.) Then what? The PS3 could definitely not support that kind of gameplay due to the RAM limitation. Just because graphics can be down and upgraded based on the system being used, doesn't mean other aspects won't suffer.

Graphics aren't everything.


Don't make me post part 2 of that video.